GPS in Competition Question

[freddielong]

Seen lots of reviews in all the mags recently and lots of posts about GPS devices and I have a question.

The rules seem to say that you can use one as long as it just gives you distance feedback, other help such as wind direction/speed green contours etc are not allowed.

Looking at many devices out there, they do give the distance info, but many also suggest how far to play up to leave you with a 100 yard shot to the green.

Is this info against the rules? should there be a list of the devices that are ok to use in competition as opposed to social use.

Fragger

I think there was a recent change (clarification) to the rules. There was a post a few weeks back on it but I can't find it.

They are still allowed by local rules but they clarified a couple of areas. I think one was that they weren't allowed to advise on club or shot selection. They can advise of distance to any point, but that's basically it.

I've seen a couple of iPhone apps that you can enter club distances into and it will advise based on distance to a point which one to use. That's now illegal. iirc.

I don't really understand that at all. For me, they should really be able to provide you with as much advice as you might expect from a caddy. After all, a caddy can give you advice on what club to use, slopes, wind strength and over and above that they can help you line up and reading greens.

The GPS/Rangefinders are the same as a caddy and I cannot see why there should be a distinction between the advice they can give and a caddy can give. Just doesn't seem logical to me.

I hear what you are saying but it is because the rules state that clubs are allowed to to creat a local rule to permit devices that give "distance only"

 

[HRC99]

Seen lots of reviews in all the mags recently and lots of posts about GPS devices and I have a question.

The rules seem to say that you can use one as long as it just gives you distance feedback, other help such as wind direction/speed green contours etc are not allowed.

Looking at many devices out there, they do give the distance info, but many also suggest how far to play up to leave you with a 100 yard shot to the green.

Is this info against the rules? should there be a list of the devices that are ok to use in competition as opposed to social use.

Fragger

I think there was a recent change (clarification) to the rules. There was a post a few weeks back on it but I can't find it.

They are still allowed by local rules but they clarified a couple of areas. I think one was that they weren't allowed to advise on club or shot selection. They can advise of distance to any point, but that's basically it.

I've seen a couple of iPhone apps that you can enter club distances into and it will advise based on distance to a point which one to use. That's now illegal. iirc.

I don't really understand that at all. For me, they should really be able to provide you with as much advice as you might expect from a caddy. After all, a caddy can give you advice on what club to use, slopes, wind strength and over and above that they can help you line up and reading greens.

The GPS/Rangefinders are the same as a caddy and I cannot see why there should be a distinction between the advice they can give and a caddy can give. Just doesn't seem logical to me.

I hear what you are saying but it is because the rules state that clubs are allowed to to creat a local rule to permit devices that give "distance only"

I understand that but it just seems double standards that you could be competing with a GPS or rangefinder against someone with a caddy who could provide much more assistance than your gizmo could. Seems unfair.

 

[viscount17]

I understand that but it just seems double standards that you could be competing with a GPS or rangefinder against someone with a caddy who could provide much more assistance than your gizmo could. Seems unfair.

but this is the line that some clubs have taken in banning their use in competitions - that it's unfair to those without.
the other, even more stupid, reasoning is that they are unfair as not everyone can afford one. not everyone can afford a custom fit set by Miura (or to play with premium balls) but I don't hear them banning those.

 

[freddielong]

Seen lots of reviews in all the mags recently and lots of posts about GPS devices and I have a question.

The rules seem to say that you can use one as long as it just gives you distance feedback, other help such as wind direction/speed green contours etc are not allowed.

Looking at many devices out there, they do give the distance info, but many also suggest how far to play up to leave you with a 100 yard shot to the green.

Is this info against the rules? should there be a list of the devices that are ok to use in competition as opposed to social use.

Fragger

I think there was a recent change (clarification) to the rules. There was a post a few weeks back on it but I can't find it.

They are still allowed by local rules but they clarified a couple of areas. I think one was that they weren't allowed to advise on club or shot selection. They can advise of distance to any point, but that's basically it.

I've seen a couple of iPhone apps that you can enter club distances into and it will advise based on distance to a point which one to use. That's now illegal. iirc.

I don't really understand that at all. For me, they should really be able to provide you with as much advice as you might expect from a caddy. After all, a caddy can give you advice on what club to use, slopes, wind strength and over and above that they can help you line up and reading greens.

The GPS/Rangefinders are the same as a caddy and I cannot see why there should be a distinction between the advice they can give and a caddy can give. Just doesn't seem logical to me.

I hear what you are saying but it is because the rules state that clubs are allowed to to creat a local rule to permit devices that give "distance only"

I understand that but it just seems double standards that you could be competing with a GPS or rangefinder against someone with a caddy who could provide much more assistance than your gizmo could. Seems unfair.

Yes but you can still have a caddy as well if you wanted

 

[haplesshacker]

Seen lots of reviews in all the mags recently and lots of posts about GPS devices and I have a question.

The rules seem to say that you can use one as long as it just gives you distance feedback, other help such as wind direction/speed green contours etc are not allowed.

Looking at many devices out there, they do give the distance info, but many also suggest how far to play up to leave you with a 100 yard shot to the green.

Is this info against the rules? should there be a list of the devices that are ok to use in competition as opposed to social use.

Fragger

I think there was a recent change (clarification) to the rules. There was a post a few weeks back on it but I can't find it.

They are still allowed by local rules but they clarified a couple of areas. I think one was that they weren't allowed to advise on club or shot selection. They can advise of distance to any point, but that's basically it.

I've seen a couple of iPhone apps that you can enter club distances into and it will advise based on distance to a point which one to use. That's now illegal. iirc.

I don't really understand that at all. For me, they should really be able to provide you with as much advice as you might expect from a caddy. After all, a caddy can give you advice on what club to use, slopes, wind strength and over and above that they can help you line up and reading greens.

The GPS/Rangefinders are the same as a caddy and I cannot see why there should be a distinction between the advice they can give and a caddy can give. Just doesn't seem logical to me.

I hear what you are saying but it is because the rules state that clubs are allowed to to creat a local rule to permit devices that give "distance only"

I understand that but it just seems double standards that you could be competing with a GPS or rangefinder against someone with a caddy who could provide much more assistance than your gizmo could. Seems unfair.

Yes but you can still have a caddy as well if you wanted

I wonder how many times one can click on the 'quote' button and have boxes within boxes. Is there a limit?

Oh. DMD's. Great things.

 

[freddielong]

Seen lots of reviews in all the mags recently and lots of posts about GPS devices and I have a question.

The rules seem to say that you can use one as long as it just gives you distance feedback, other help such as wind direction/speed green contours etc are not allowed.

Looking at many devices out there, they do give the distance info, but many also suggest how far to play up to leave you with a 100 yard shot to the green.

Is this info against the rules? should there be a list of the devices that are ok to use in competition as opposed to social use.

Fragger

I think there was a recent change (clarification) to the rules. There was a post a few weeks back on it but I can't find it.

They are still allowed by local rules but they clarified a couple of areas. I think one was that they weren't allowed to advise on club or shot selection. They can advise of distance to any point, but that's basically it.

I've seen a couple of iPhone apps that you can enter club distances into and it will advise based on distance to a point which one to use. That's now illegal. iirc.

I don't really understand that at all. For me, they should really be able to provide you with as much advice as you might expect from a caddy. After all, a caddy can give you advice on what club to use, slopes, wind strength and over and above that they can help you line up and reading greens.

The GPS/Rangefinders are the same as a caddy and I cannot see why there should be a distinction between the advice they can give and a caddy can give. Just doesn't seem logical to me.

I hear what you are saying but it is because the rules state that clubs are allowed to to creat a local rule to permit devices that give "distance only"

I understand that but it just seems double standards that you could be competing with a GPS or rangefinder against someone with a caddy who could provide much more assistance than your gizmo could. Seems unfair.

Yes but you can still have a caddy as well if you wanted

I wonder how many times one can click on the 'quote' button and have boxes within boxes. Is there a limit?

Oh. DMD's. Great things.

I actually thought the same thing when I made the last post its getting a bit much

 

[AuburnWarrior]

Seen lots of reviews in all the mags recently and lots of posts about GPS devices and I have a question.

The rules seem to say that you can use one as long as it just gives you distance feedback, other help such as wind direction/speed green contours etc are not allowed.

Looking at many devices out there, they do give the distance info, but many also suggest how far to play up to leave you with a 100 yard shot to the green.

Is this info against the rules? should there be a list of the devices that are ok to use in competition as opposed to social use.

Fragger

I think there was a recent change (clarification) to the rules. There was a post a few weeks back on it but I can't find it.

They are still allowed by local rules but they clarified a couple of areas. I think one was that they weren't allowed to advise on club or shot selection. They can advise of distance to any point, but that's basically it.

I've seen a couple of iPhone apps that you can enter club distances into and it will advise based on distance to a point which one to use. That's now illegal. iirc.

I don't really understand that at all. For me, they should really be able to provide you with as much advice as you might expect from a caddy. After all, a caddy can give you advice on what club to use, slopes, wind strength and over and above that they can help you line up and reading greens.

The GPS/Rangefinders are the same as a caddy and I cannot see why there should be a distinction between the advice they can give and a caddy can give. Just doesn't seem logical to me.

I hear what you are saying but it is because the rules state that clubs are allowed to to creat a local rule to permit devices that give "distance only"

I understand that but it just seems double standards that you could be competing with a GPS or rangefinder against someone with a caddy who could provide much more assistance than your gizmo could. Seems unfair.

Yes but you can still have a caddy as well if you wanted

I wonder how many times one can click on the 'quote' button and have boxes within boxes. Is there a limit?

Oh. DMD's. Great things.

I actually thought the same thing when I made the last post its getting a bit much

It appears you can just keep quoting....

 

[USER1999]

Oh good. That'll be useful then.

 

[freddielong]

Seen lots of reviews in all the mags recently and lots of posts about GPS devices and I have a question.

The rules seem to say that you can use one as long as it just gives you distance feedback, other help such as wind direction/speed green contours etc are not allowed.

Looking at many devices out there, they do give the distance info, but many also suggest how far to play up to leave you with a 100 yard shot to the green.

Is this info against the rules? should there be a list of the devices that are ok to use in competition as opposed to social use.

Fragger

I think there was a recent change (clarification) to the rules. There was a post a few weeks back on it but I can't find it.

They are still allowed by local rules but they clarified a couple of areas. I think one was that they weren't allowed to advise on club or shot selection. They can advise of distance to any point, but that's basically it.

I've seen a couple of iPhone apps that you can enter club distances into and it will advise based on distance to a point which one to use. That's now illegal. iirc.

I don't really understand that at all. For me, they should really be able to provide you with as much advice as you might expect from a caddy. After all, a caddy can give you advice on what club to use, slopes, wind strength and over and above that they can help you line up and reading greens.

The GPS/Rangefinders are the same as a caddy and I cannot see why there should be a distinction between the advice they can give and a caddy can give. Just doesn't seem logical to me.

I hear what you are saying but it is because the rules state that clubs are allowed to to creat a local rule to permit devices that give "distance only"

I understand that but it just seems double standards that you could be competing with a GPS or rangefinder against someone with a caddy who could provide much more assistance than your gizmo could. Seems unfair.

Yes but you can still have a caddy as well if you wanted

I wonder how many times one can click on the 'quote' button and have boxes within boxes. Is there a limit?

Oh. DMD's. Great things.

I actually thought the same thing when I made the last post its getting a bit much

It appears you can just keep quoting....

Wouldn't it just get a bit silly and unreadable in the end

 

[haplesshacker]

Seen lots of reviews in all the mags recently and lots of posts about GPS devices and I have a question.

The rules seem to say that you can use one as long as it just gives you distance feedback, other help such as wind direction/speed green contours etc are not allowed.

Looking at many devices out there, they do give the distance info, but many also suggest how far to play up to leave you with a 100 yard shot to the green.

Is this info against the rules? should there be a list of the devices that are ok to use in competition as opposed to social use.

Fragger

I think there was a recent change (clarification) to the rules. There was a post a few weeks back on it but I can't find it.

They are still allowed by local rules but they clarified a couple of areas. I think one was that they weren't allowed to advise on club or shot selection. They can advise of distance to any point, but that's basically it.

I've seen a couple of iPhone apps that you can enter club distances into and it will advise based on distance to a point which one to use. That's now illegal. iirc.

I don't really understand that at all. For me, they should really be able to provide you with as much advice as you might expect from a caddy. After all, a caddy can give you advice on what club to use, slopes, wind strength and over and above that they can help you line up and reading greens.

The GPS/Rangefinders are the same as a caddy and I cannot see why there should be a distinction between the advice they can give and a caddy can give. Just doesn't seem logical to me.

I hear what you are saying but it is because the rules state that clubs are allowed to to creat a local rule to permit devices that give "distance only"

I understand that but it just seems double standards that you could be competing with a GPS or rangefinder against someone with a caddy who could provide much more assistance than your gizmo could. Seems unfair.

Yes but you can still have a caddy as well if you wanted

I wonder how many times one can click on the 'quote' button and have boxes within boxes. Is there a limit?

Oh. DMD's. Great things.

I actually thought the same thing when I made the last post its getting a bit much

It appears you can just keep quoting....

But the middle box (which I guess was the starting point) is getting narrower and narrower, there's only so far it will go. Single letter per line?

 

[Sneds]

Seen lots of reviews in all the mags recently and lots of posts about GPS devices and I have a question.

The rules seem to say that you can use one as long as it just gives you distance feedback, other help such as wind direction/speed green contours etc are not allowed.

Looking at many devices out there, they do give the distance info, but many also suggest how far to play up to leave you with a 100 yard shot to the green.

Is this info against the rules? should there be a list of the devices that are ok to use in competition as opposed to social use.

Fragger

I think there was a recent change (clarification) to the rules. There was a post a few weeks back on it but I can't find it.

They are still allowed by local rules but they clarified a couple of areas. I think one was that they weren't allowed to advise on club or shot selection. They can advise of distance to any point, but that's basically it.

I've seen a couple of iPhone apps that you can enter club distances into and it will advise based on distance to a point which one to use. That's now illegal. iirc.

I don't really understand that at all. For me, they should really be able to provide you with as much advice as you might expect from a caddy. After all, a caddy can give you advice on what club to use, slopes, wind strength and over and above that they can help you line up and reading greens.

The GPS/Rangefinders are the same as a caddy and I cannot see why there should be a distinction between the advice they can give and a caddy can give. Just doesn't seem logical to me.

I hear what you are saying but it is because the rules state that clubs are allowed to to creat a local rule to permit devices that give "distance only"

I understand that but it just seems double standards that you could be competing with a GPS or rangefinder against someone with a caddy who could provide much more assistance than your gizmo could. Seems unfair.

Yes but you can still have a caddy as well if you wanted

I wonder how many times one can click on the 'quote' button and have boxes within boxes. Is there a limit?

Oh. DMD's. Great things.

I actually thought the same thing when I made the last post its getting a bit much

It appears you can just keep quoting....

I'm sorry, what is this thread about? x

 

[Sam]

Seen lots of reviews in all the mags recently and lots of posts about GPS devices and I have a question.

The rules seem to say that you can use one as long as it just gives you distance feedback, other help such as wind direction/speed green contours etc are not allowed.

Looking at many devices out there, they do give the distance info, but many also suggest how far to play up to leave you with a 100 yard shot to the green.

Is this info against the rules? should there be a list of the devices that are ok to use in competition as opposed to social use.

Fragger

I think there was a recent change (clarification) to the rules. There was a post a few weeks back on it but I can't find it.

They are still allowed by local rules but they clarified a couple of areas. I think one was that they weren't allowed to advise on club or shot selection. They can advise of distance to any point, but that's basically it.

I've seen a couple of iPhone apps that you can enter club distances into and it will advise based on distance to a point which one to use. That's now illegal. iirc.

I don't really understand that at all. For me, they should really be able to provide you with as much advice as you might expect from a caddy. After all, a caddy can give you advice on what club to use, slopes, wind strength and over and above that they can help you line up and reading greens.

The GPS/Rangefinders are the same as a caddy and I cannot see why there should be a distinction between the advice they can give and a caddy can give. Just doesn't seem logical to me.

I hear what you are saying but it is because the rules state that clubs are allowed to to creat a local rule to permit devices that give "distance only"

I understand that but it just seems double standards that you could be competing with a GPS or rangefinder against someone with a caddy who could provide much more assistance than your gizmo could. Seems unfair.

Yes but you can still have a caddy as well if you wanted

I wonder how many times one can click on the 'quote' button and have boxes within boxes. Is there a limit?

Oh. DMD's. Great things.

Must be..

 

[AuburnWarrior]

Seen lots of reviews in all the mags recently and lots of posts about GPS devices and I have a question.

The rules seem to say that you can use one as long as it just gives you distance feedback, other help such as wind direction/speed green contours etc are not allowed.

Looking at many devices out there, they do give the distance info, but many also suggest how far to play up to leave you with a 100 yard shot to the green.

Is this info against the rules? should there be a list of the devices that are ok to use in competition as opposed to social use.

Fragger

I think there was a recent change (clarification) to the rules. There was a post a few weeks back on it but I can't find it.

They are still allowed by local rules but they clarified a couple of areas. I think one was that they weren't allowed to advise on club or shot selection. They can advise of distance to any point, but that's basically it.

I've seen a couple of iPhone apps that you can enter club distances into and it will advise based on distance to a point which one to use. That's now illegal. iirc.

I don't really understand that at all. For me, they should really be able to provide you with as much advice as you might expect from a caddy. After all, a caddy can give you advice on what club to use, slopes, wind strength and over and above that they can help you line up and reading greens.

The GPS/Rangefinders are the same as a caddy and I cannot see why there should be a distinction between the advice they can give and a caddy can give. Just doesn't seem logical to me.

I hear what you are saying but it is because the rules state that clubs are allowed to to creat a local rule to permit devices that give "distance only"

I understand that but it just seems double standards that you could be competing with a GPS or rangefinder against someone with a caddy who could provide much more assistance than your gizmo could. Seems unfair.

Yes but you can still have a caddy as well if you wanted

I wonder how many times one can click on the 'quote' button and have boxes within boxes. Is there a limit?

Oh. DMD's. Great things.

I actually thought the same thing when I made the last post its getting a bit much

It appears you can just keep quoting....

I'm sorry, what is this thread about? x

Quotes....

 

[freddielong]

Seen lots of reviews in all the mags recently and lots of posts about GPS devices and I have a question.

The rules seem to say that you can use one as long as it just gives you distance feedback, other help such as wind direction/speed green contours etc are not allowed.

Looking at many devices out there, they do give the distance info, but many also suggest how far to play up to leave you with a 100 yard shot to the green.

Is this info against the rules? should there be a list of the devices that are ok to use in competition as opposed to social use.

Fragger

I think there was a recent change (clarification) to the rules. There was a post a few weeks back on it but I can't find it.

They are still allowed by local rules but they clarified a couple of areas. I think one was that they weren't allowed to advise on club or shot selection. They can advise of distance to any point, but that's basically it.

I've seen a couple of iPhone apps that you can enter club distances into and it will advise based on distance to a point which one to use. That's now illegal. iirc.

I don't really understand that at all. For me, they should really be able to provide you with as much advice as you might expect from a caddy. After all, a caddy can give you advice on what club to use, slopes, wind strength and over and above that they can help you line up and reading greens.

The GPS/Rangefinders are the same as a caddy and I cannot see why there should be a distinction between the advice they can give and a caddy can give. Just doesn't seem logical to me.

I hear what you are saying but it is because the rules state that clubs are allowed to to creat a local rule to permit devices that give "distance only"

I understand that but it just seems double standards that you could be competing with a GPS or rangefinder against someone with a caddy who could provide much more assistance than your gizmo could. Seems unfair.

Yes but you can still have a caddy as well if you wanted

I wonder how many times one can click on the 'quote' button and have boxes within boxes. Is there a limit?

Oh. DMD's. Great things.

I actually thought the same thing when I made the last post its getting a bit much

It appears you can just keep quoting....

I'm sorry, what is this thread about? x

I dont know possibly something to do with Tiger most of them are

 

[HRC99]

Seen lots of reviews in all the mags recently and lots of posts about GPS devices and I have a question.

The rules seem to say that you can use one as long as it just gives you distance feedback, other help such as wind direction/speed green contours etc are not allowed.

Looking at many devices out there, they do give the distance info, but many also suggest how far to play up to leave you with a 100 yard shot to the green.

Is this info against the rules? should there be a list of the devices that are ok to use in competition as opposed to social use.

Fragger

I think there was a recent change (clarification) to the rules. There was a post a few weeks back on it but I can't find it.

They are still allowed by local rules but they clarified a couple of areas. I think one was that they weren't allowed to advise on club or shot selection. They can advise of distance to any point, but that's basically it.

I've seen a couple of iPhone apps that you can enter club distances into and it will advise based on distance to a point which one to use. That's now illegal. iirc.

I don't really understand that at all. For me, they should really be able to provide you with as much advice as you might expect from a caddy. After all, a caddy can give you advice on what club to use, slopes, wind strength and over and above that they can help you line up and reading greens.

The GPS/Rangefinders are the same as a caddy and I cannot see why there should be a distinction between the advice they can give and a caddy can give. Just doesn't seem logical to me.

I hear what you are saying but it is because the rules state that clubs are allowed to to creat a local rule to permit devices that give "distance only"

I understand that but it just seems double standards that you could be competing with a GPS or rangefinder against someone with a caddy who could provide much more assistance than your gizmo could. Seems unfair.

Yes but you can still have a caddy as well if you wanted

I wonder how many times one can click on the 'quote' button and have boxes within boxes. Is there a limit?

Oh. DMD's. Great things.

I actually thought the same thing when I made the last post its getting a bit much

It appears you can just keep quoting....

I'm sorry, what is this thread about? x

I dont know possibly something to do with Tiger most of them are

Getting smaller

 

[PhilTheFragger]

Well im glad that my thread has provided some entertainment and Tested the edge of the envelope as far as web design goes.

so back to the post

basically it seems that as long as there is a local rule you can use one, but there isnt a list of approved kit.

Please tell me if I have the wrong end of the stick

Fragger

 

[Imurg]

Your interlocking grip is around the correct end of the club Sir!

So what are you getting??

 

[PhilTheFragger]

Your interlocking grip is around the correct end of the club Sir!

So what are you getting??

Toss up between a sky or a sono

Views please

 

[Imurg]

Taking the inital cost as a start -

SG2.5 - £179 from AG
Sonocaddie V300 - £274 from NB's

Add in Skycaddies 30 quid a year and you've got 3 years worth of use before the costs match up. By which time there'll be a cheaper alternative that does the same thing so you'll want to change anyway.

I've looked at the Sono's and similar and they almost give too much info. Normally, even on a new course, you can see the shape of the hole so as long as you know how far it is to hazards why do you need a picture? Also the colour screen - why?

SC2.5 does everything I need from a DMD and in 3 years I'll look again to see if anything better has come along that's cheaper.

 

[bobmac]

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Sonocaddie-V300-...7017&sr=8-1