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[GreiginFife]

What many people don't seem to understand about free speech. Is that they are free to say whatever they want. But, they are not free from the potential consequences of what they say.

Similar with opinions. You are absolutely free to hold any opinion you like. But that doesn't mean that your opinion is a fact. Or that anyone else has to pay any attention to it.
This is something many people seem to struggle to understand these days.

Exactly this, there is no such thing as "free" speech IMO. Everything we say and do has consequences in one shape or form. Some more costly than other dependant on the thing said or the action taken.

 

[SocketRocket]

What many people don't seem to understand about free speech. Is that they are free to say whatever they want. But, they are not free from the potential consequences of what they say.

Similar with opinions. You are absolutely free to hold any opinion you like. But that doesn't mean that your opinion is a fact. Or that anyone else has to pay any attention to it.
This is something many people seem to struggle to understand these days.

I agree with that.

 

[Fade and Die]

So Free speech If pre-approved by the Free speech police? ???

 

[SocketRocket]

So Free speech If pre-approved by the Free speech police? ???

Exactly.

I agree that free speech can have certain consequences when things like state security or direct personal intimidation is at stake but very few things should be restricted.

I remember years ago going to Speakers Corner in Bristol where people would stand on their soapboxes and say just about anything they wanted, it lead to some very lively debates.

 

[Fade and Die]

Exactly.

I agree that free speech can have certain consequences when things like state security or direct personal intimidation is at stake but very few things should be restricted.

I remember years ago going to Speakers Corner in Bristol where people would stand on their soapboxes and say just about anything they wanted, it lead to some very lively debates.

Freedom of Speech does not mean the freedom to say what you want, where you want, to whom you want. Anyone who believes it does misunderstands the concept.
But Free speech allows us to question,disagree,have independent opinions.

 

[Deleted member 29109]

So Free speech If pre-approved by the Free speech police? ???

Try this. Walk into the roughest pub in the roughest area near where you live and call the biggest bloke in there a see you next Tuesday. You are 100% free to say what you said. But there will likely be consequences.

Or call your boss the same (if you have one). When you get the sack tell them you were just exercising your right to free speech.

 

[SocketRocket]

Try this. Walk into the roughest pub in the roughest area near where you live and call the biggest bloke in there a see you next Tuesday. You are 100% free to say what you said. But there will likely be consequences.

Or call your boss the same (if you have one). When you get the sack tell them you were just exercising your right to free speech.

You don't seem to get it. Things like Intimidation, inciting violence, breaches of the peace or outright breaking the law are not using free speech.

It is questionable sometimes how some subjects are classified as illegal. Someone may have a strong opinion on people being obese, or smoking for example but that doesn't mean it's ok to call out individuals in the street or use foul language as you suggested, they should be able to make their views known through the written word or open debate though. You should be quite entitled to tell your Boss what you think of him as well as long as it doesn't break the law, of course you would face the consequences of that but that's your free decision.

 

[theoneandonly]

You don't seem to get it. Things like Intimidation, inciting violence, breaches of the peace or outright breaking the law are not using free speech.

It is questionable sometimes how some subjects are classified as illegal. Someone may have a strong opinion on people being obese, or smoking for example but that doesn't mean it's ok to call out individuals in the street or use foul language as you suggested, they should be able to make their views known through the written word or open debate though. You should be quite entitled to tell your Boss what you think of him as well as long as it doesn't break the law, of course you would face the consequences of that but that's your free decision.

What are you so desperate to say but feel you can't discuss. I can't think of any subject that is off limits.
Obviously this forum has its own long list of restrictions on what you can and can't say.

 

[PhilTheFragger]

What are you so desperate to say but feel you can't discuss. I can't think of any subject that is off limits.
Obviously this forum has its own long list of restrictions on what you can and can't say.

It is what it is, please stop the veiled criticism, if you dont like it here, feel free to go elsewhere.

 

[theoneandonly]

It is what it is, please stop the veiled criticism, if you dont like it here, feel free to go elsewhere.

What are you on about? You need to stop seeing things that don't exist mate.

 

[Mudball]

Saw this thread and decided to have a look at it. Saw Dan Wootan's show around 10pm. The discussion was about 'US is opening up, but we are too afraid to open even though US does not have the same level of vaccination'... some interesting points. Then one of the guests said, 'the US does not have the same number of Indians as we have'. I fell over laughing and switched off. She has probably never been to the US.

 

[IanM]

Another thread obvious where it's heading from post number 1.

I see a time where if is isn't about golf, it is barred! Then we can kick off about whether the Old Course is any good or not, and dress codes!

 

[larmen]

Another thread obvious where it's heading from post number 1.

I see a time where if is isn't about golf, it is barred! Then we can kick off about whether the Old Course is any good or not, and dress codes!

why would I take an opinion about the old course from someone who doesn’t want to tuck in their shirt? ;-)

(No idea if you tuck or untuck, but the joke was right there on a plate)

A lot of companies are pulling their savers already, some of them didn’t even know they advertise there because it’s agency driven.
Backlash for Specsavers for pulling it yesterday evening, which reminded me that I had to book an eye test.

 

[SocketRocket]

Another thread obvious where it's heading from post number 1.

I see a time where if is isn't about golf, it is barred! Then we can kick off about whether the Old Course is any good or not, and dress codes!

Didn't you read the Hoodie thread ?

 

[ColchesterFC]

Another thread obvious where it's heading from post number 1.

I see a time where if is isn't about golf, it is barred! Then we can kick off about whether the Old Course is any good or not, and dress codes!

It's not it's a goat track. Should be closed and returned to grazing sheep on it.

 

[Doon frae Troon]

As much chance of me watching Coronation Street as this contrived jingoistic news tripe.
No doubt that there will be certain 'types' who will lap it up.

 

[IanM]

The whiff of hypocrisy in this thread is reaching record levels.

 

[Dando]

As much chance of me watching Coronation Street as this contrived jingoistic news tripe.
No doubt that there will be certain 'types' who will lap it up.

And what “types” are those?

 

[SocketRocket]

And what “types” are those?

English ?

 

[theoneandonly]

And what “types” are those?

Male ABC1