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[FairwayDodger]

A mixture, some longer than they were, some shorter, some left, some right. My drive on the first was in the middle of the fairway but GG thought I was yards further right in the rough. My second then finished just short of the green but GG thought it was right at the back of the green.

I had the gizmo in my pocket and brought it out to tag clubs so maybe it didn't always have enough satellites to triangulate an accurate position.

Also noticed the average driving distance seems wrong, in that it's less than the average distance with my driver, so maybe they include every club you hit off the tee?

 

[Deleted member 16999]

A mixture, some longer than they were, some shorter, some left, some right. My drive on the first was in the middle of the fairway but GG thought I was yards further right in the rough. My second then finished just short of the green but GG thought it was right at the back of the green.

I had the gizmo in my pocket and brought it out to tag clubs so maybe it didn't always have enough satellites to triangulate an accurate position.

Also noticed the average driving distance seems wrong, in that it's less than the average distance with my driver, so maybe they include every club you hit off the tee?

The beauty of it is that you can edit post round, mine sits on my belt and I only get the odd spurious shot way off from were it was, if you look at insights you can filter to particular clubs off the tee, I reckon it takes 15-20 rounds to get your "stats" near correct, will be interesting to how you get on with it as I imagine you may be looking for more in depth stats at your level compared to mine, I'm happy to be in a few yards of position when editing, you may be more precise.

 

[FairwayDodger]

The beauty of it is that you can edit post round, mine sits on my belt and I only get the odd spurious shot way off from were it was, if you look at insights you can filter to particular clubs off the tee, I reckon it takes 15-20 rounds to get your "stats" near correct, will be interesting to how you get on with it as I imagine you may be looking for more in depth stats at your level compared to mine, I'm happy to be in a few yards of position when editing, you may be more precise.

Yes, and I edited it as far as I could recollect. It'll be interesting to see how it goes as I add more rounds.

 

[UlyssesSky]

I had the gizmo in my pocket and brought it out to tag clubs so maybe it didn't always have enough satellites to triangulate an accurate position.

Sounds reasonable.

Also noticed the average driving distance seems wrong, in that it's less than the average distance with my driver, so maybe they include every club you hit off the tee?

Normally GG shows the distance by club... You could check the average 'off the tee' distance and compare it to the average driver distance to see if there's any differences.

Could it be your drives were shorter than normal due to the less than perfect conditions?

 

[FairwayDodger]

Could it be your drives were shorter than normal due to the less than perfect conditions?

I certainly lost a wee bit of distance but, no, I'm basing that on the "compare vs benchmark" option. It has my driving average at 219 yards, but the average it shows against the driver is 232 yards. So it's calculating those two figures differently somehow!

 

[FairwayDodger]

I certainly lost a wee bit of distance but, no, I'm basing that on the "compare vs benchmark" option. It has my driving average at 219 yards, but the average it shows against the driver is 232 yards. So it's calculating those two figures differently somehow!

Ah, the 232 yards is "typical" rather than average. So I'm guessing the average includes all shots with the club whereas "typical" excludes outliers?

 

[Paperboy]

Ah, the 232 yards is "typical" rather than average. So I'm guessing the average includes all shots with the club whereas "typical" excludes outliers?

Karen, I think it takes a few rounds to lose the outliers. For instance with my sand wedge I use to chip around the green with it was typical 20 yards. These where filtered out after 5 rounds or so when it has more data to use.

 

[woody69]

A mixture, some longer than they were, some shorter, some left, some right. My drive on the first was in the middle of the fairway but GG thought I was yards further right in the rough. My second then finished just short of the green but GG thought it was right at the back of the green.

I had the gizmo in my pocket and brought it out to tag clubs so maybe it didn't always have enough satellites to triangulate an accurate position.

Also noticed the average driving distance seems wrong, in that it's less than the average distance with my driver, so maybe they include every club you hit off the tee?

You will lose satellite signal if you keep it in your pocket and it will affect the accuracy of your tags. You have to keep the top of the unit with as clear a path to the sky as possible. Keeping it in your pocket will affect the accuracy significantly.

 

[FairwayDodger]

You will lose satellite signal if you keep it in your pocket and it will affect the accuracy of your tags. You have to keep the top of the unit with as clear a path to the sky as possible. Keeping it in your pocket will affect the accuracy significantly.

I know. The problem is finding somewhere to keep it where it isn't obscured. Belt wasn't an option last night as I was wearing a fleece that would have covered it. What do others do?

 

[Deleted member 16999]

I know. The problem is finding somewhere to keep it where it isn't obscured. Belt wasn't an option last night as I was wearing a fleece that would have covered it. What do others do?

I hook it on my belt and if wearing jumper or fleece etc, just lift said garment behind it, if it falls over it jst lift it back, had no issues doing that.

 

[UlyssesSky]

Ah, the 232 yards is "typical" rather than average. So I'm guessing the average includes all shots with the club whereas "typical" excludes outliers?

Actually, the typical should be the median. If you hit 5 drives to 200, 200, 230, 230, 230 yards the average (mean) length will be 218, but the median (typical) is 230.

 

[SwingsitlikeHogan]

Actually, the typical should be the median. If you hit 5 drives to 200, 200, 230, 230, 230 yards the average (mean) length will be 218, but the median (typical) is 230.

Median seems a much more sensible measure of distance when we are talking golf shots - it takes out the skewness that a couple of abnormally good drives or abnormally bad drives introduce into the average. Our one sigma - 66% (or maybe two sigma - 95%) from the mean would also get rid of outliers.

 

[3565]

I know. The problem is finding somewhere to keep it where it isn't obscured. Belt wasn't an option last night as I was wearing a fleece that would have covered it. What do others do?

Not sure about a fleece but I wore mine under a jumper yesterday and hooked onto my belt on the front next to my buckle and it picks it up every time.

 

[FairwayDodger]

Next question....

I'm interested in the "approach the green" insight which claims to give proximity to the hole on approach shots. But, as far as I can tell, it has no way if knowing where the hole is so how does that work? Is there some way to tag the hole location?

 

[Deleted member 16999]

Next question....

I'm interested in the "approach the green" insight which claims to give proximity to the hole on approach shots. But, as far as I can tell, it has no way if knowing where the hole is so how does that work? Is there some way to tag the hole location?

At the moment there is no way to tag hole location, I think it is to centre of green as that's how all measurements are done to. I believe there is talk about an update that will allow you to measure putt length, again not sure when due for release or how it will work.

 

[UlyssesSky]

Since flag locations change regularly, there's no way for game golf to know the correct flag location for any given round.

You can move the flag around when editing your round, just like when you're moving the location of a shot game golf didn't get right. If you have a tap in for your second putt you can simply move the flag location next to the location of your last putt.

The best workaround for all other situations seems to be to just tag your putter once more over the hole when you get your ball out of the hole. Then when editing your round move the flag location to the location of that last putt and delete the shot once your done.

 

[FairwayDodger]

Since flag locations change regularly, there's no way for game golf to know the correct flag location for any given round.

Obviously, hence the question!

You can move the flag around when editing your round, just like when you're moving the location of a shot game golf didn't get right. If you have a tap in for your second putt you can simply move the flag location next to the location of your last putt.

The best workaround for all other situations seems to be to just tag your putter once more over the hole when you get your ball out of the hole. Then when editing your round move the flag location to the location of that last putt and delete the shot once your done.

Thanks, that's useful. I don't notice a flag when I was editing my first round but will bear this in mind next time.

 

[FairwayDodger]

Still got the novelty value and enjoying GG. How about this shot to set up a nice wee eagle earlier this evening?

http://www.gamegolf.com/player/fergusonk/round/587744?hole_id=19969293

 

[Deleted member 16999]

Still got the novelty value and enjoying GG. How about this shot to set up a nice wee eagle earlier this evening?

http://www.gamegolf.com/player/fergusonk/round/587744?hole_id=19969293

If you're on Twitter, GG have a Shot of the Week comp, bit of fun!

 

[jp15g08]

I see FairwayDodger is shot of the week on GameGolf. Congratulations!

http://articles.gamegolf.com/article/shot-of-the-week-winner-september-23rd