abjectplop
Hacker
Just saw this on twitter which may be of use to some.
https://blog.americangolf.co.uk/free-golf-lesson/
https://blog.americangolf.co.uk/free-golf-lesson/
Free Golf Lesson - American Golf
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inc0gnito
Assistant Pro
Sounds good on the surface
Can’t help but think what their angle is though
Can’t help but think what their angle is though
pokerjoke
Money List Winner
I suspect the angles is all about numbers.
Get people through the door
Look at current clubs and numbers
Show people clubs that produce better numbers when fitted for
Sell said clubs
Get people through the door
Look at current clubs and numbers
Show people clubs that produce better numbers when fitted for
Sell said clubs
stefanovic
Medal Winner
Yep, it's all about emptying you wallet, and the staff work off commission.
Just how much mark up is there in golf clubs? Guessing on grip for a quid, shaft about ten, head for about 20. Then retail a driver for £400.
A few sales a week and they're driving a Porsche.
Last time I went in the AG, the salesman became aggressive after of the 2 clubs I tried, I declined both.
Just how much mark up is there in golf clubs? Guessing on grip for a quid, shaft about ten, head for about 20. Then retail a driver for £400.
A few sales a week and they're driving a Porsche.
Last time I went in the AG, the salesman became aggressive after of the 2 clubs I tried, I declined both.
Crow
Crow Person
I could go with a selection of my clubs, their eyes would light up at the prospect of a big sale. 
I would be very sceptical. PGA pro and "Master fitter" (my feelings on their custom fit very well known) only in selected stores. Does that leave you with the shop assistant? I'm out
chrisd
Major Champion
When I bought a Cobra F9 3 wood recently the AG assistant who "fitted" me was, when I asked, a 12 handicapper at an easier course than mine, lucky i knew what I wanted
RangeMonkey
Active member
A work colleague of mine booked a custom fit at AG a couple weeks ago.
As a casual range-goer, just building up to thinking about going on-course, and as someone who doesn’t follow YouTube channels, or read much, he had no idea what fitting was about.
His “fitting” amounted to hitting a dozen balls with two different off-the-shelf drivers. No measurements, no launch monitor, no talk of loft/lie/shaft or grip options. Just, “Which one do you want?”
As a casual range-goer, just building up to thinking about going on-course, and as someone who doesn’t follow YouTube channels, or read much, he had no idea what fitting was about.
His “fitting” amounted to hitting a dozen balls with two different off-the-shelf drivers. No measurements, no launch monitor, no talk of loft/lie/shaft or grip options. Just, “Which one do you want?”
pokerjoke
Money List Winner
I know what you mean and I think this every time you post in the “ask the experts section.
Parsaregood
Head Pro
Doesn't take a genius to work out the theory behind this offer ?
need_my_wedge
Has Now Found His Wedgie
It doesn‘t matter what industry you’re in, a shop or company only survive by selling their products. As in all companies, some sales people are more aggressive than others, some nicer than others, some better than others, some more experienced than others, much the same as members on a forum ?. Commission is important to sales people because without it they’re usually on a pretty low salary, which they are in AG. Many of them young lads learning the business, none I know are any where near owning a Porsche. Of course this offer is designed to get people through the door, to spend money, what else would you expect. However, we all have a choice, we choose either not to go in the first place, to take the offer without buying anything extra, or to be charmed into spending more if we want/ can/ or get blinded by new shinies etc.
i get that some people’s experience in store is different depending on the different sales people you meet, and that will contribute to your feeling about the store but I don’t get the bashing of AG every time they appear in a thread. I’ve always had good experience in there, they’ve never actually forced me to buy anything I don’t want to, they will usually discuss things and recommend things, but that’s what they’re there for, and why I’m there if I’m asking them. In general though, you shouldn’t be surprised if you walk into a shop and find a sales person tries to sell you something new.
i get that some people’s experience in store is different depending on the different sales people you meet, and that will contribute to your feeling about the store but I don’t get the bashing of AG every time they appear in a thread. I’ve always had good experience in there, they’ve never actually forced me to buy anything I don’t want to, they will usually discuss things and recommend things, but that’s what they’re there for, and why I’m there if I’m asking them. In general though, you shouldn’t be surprised if you walk into a shop and find a sales person tries to sell you something new.
ManinBlack
Tour Winner
My local AG is listed as participating but they don't have a PGA Pro. One staff member is EGTF (English Golf Teachers Federation) qualified, a qualification looked down on by PGA pros.
RangeMonkey
Active member
I’ve personally had great service from AG on several occasions, but when they have a web page that promises a full fitting experience, then they provide absolutely zero fitting, I think that needs to be called out.
I don’t care if that’s AG or anyone else, that’s just poor service and false advertising.
Jigger
Club Champion
My mate went to our local store for one a while back. They had him passing boxes to demonstrate the rotation. I said to him “were they not just short on staff for their stock check!”
Jensen
Tour Rookie
I like the 2 AG that I use, Gateshead M/Centre and Sunderland.
Friday I tried 2 clubs at a driving range. Currently have stiff flex that I was fitted for. He said ball flight was fine, but would probably need regular. Based on sight alone I thought that strange. In fairness he did say I need to go on monitor.
Would I get fitted there....No they don't give me confidence. Personally I would get fitted by a Pro who fitted me before. That said I do buy all my other gear there
Friday I tried 2 clubs at a driving range. Currently have stiff flex that I was fitted for. He said ball flight was fine, but would probably need regular. Based on sight alone I thought that strange. In fairness he did say I need to go on monitor.
Would I get fitted there....No they don't give me confidence. Personally I would get fitted by a Pro who fitted me before. That said I do buy all my other gear there
sunshine
Well-known member
Sounds fair to me. No point custom fitting a beginner, just let them hit a few off the shelf and go with best one.
Chris1967
New member
Got a lesson Friday,and need a new driver,not spending over 100 though
sunshine
Well-known member
Had my free "lesson" the other day. Didn't take long before he was suggesting I come back for a free fitting session where he could sell me some new irons.
I saw it as an opportunity to hit a bucket of balls on top tracer for free. It would have been a bonus if I'd picked up a little tip or swing thought, but if you go in with your eyes open it can work for you.
Don't understand the hate for AG. It's just a business trying to be innovative and survive in a tough market.
I saw it as an opportunity to hit a bucket of balls on top tracer for free. It would have been a bonus if I'd picked up a little tip or swing thought, but if you go in with your eyes open it can work for you.
Don't understand the hate for AG. It's just a business trying to be innovative and survive in a tough market.
Parsaregood
Head Pro
Did you gain anything from the free lesson other than him advising a fitting session for new irons ? ?
chrisd
Major Champion
In some ways you are right but, take my AG, there is no one who plays off single figure handicap let alone appear qualified to give a lesson. The last club I " got fitted for " was done by a lad off 12 handicap and I spent the time analysing the results myself, he gave me the wrong hardcover and spanner too. They are very willing and friendly but should be properly trained to fit clubs or give lessons otherwise it is likely that the unaware will end up with the wrong clubs at a higher price
