Foxhunting

Foxhunting in Scotland is about as popular as Shinty in London.
I think we have only a handful of active packs so not enough to bother folks.
Most see it as the end of bygone sports like cock fighting and badger baiting.
But you appear to be happy with the way the animals are ripped to pieces in Scotland and blindly back this bunch of SNP hand wringers.
 
But you appear to be happy with the way the animals are ripped to pieces in Scotland and blindly back this bunch of SNP hand wringers.

Think you'll find that the kind of hunt you refer to has been banned up here since 2002. Dogs should be used to drive the fox into the marksmans sight.
 
Indeed. But is it not the number of dogs used that was the issue here.
Well, that and the snp engineering yet another point scoring opportunity.
 
What a bag of spanners Scotland has made of it's representation. No wonder the Westminster Scottish MPs are like Nichola's sheep bleating Her progressive balderdash!

English MP's can vote on UK matters and will also be able to vote on English matters when EVEL comes in. Scotland's UK MP's can't vote on Scottish devolved matters though. Seems like they have painted themselves into a second class corner.
 
What a bag of spanners Scotland has made of it's representation. No wonder the Westminster Scottish MPs are like Nichola's sheep bleating Her progressive balderdash!

English MP's can vote on UK matters and will also be able to vote on English matters when EVEL comes in. Scotland's UK MP's can't vote on Scottish devolved matters though. Seems like they have painted themselves into a second class corner.

Have you ever considered that if EVEL does come to a UK parliament there may not be any Scottish MP's in the building to vote.
 
Have you ever considered that if EVEL does come to a UK parliament there may not be any Scottish MP's in the building to vote.

Thought they were proponents of devolved power! If they wanted to stay away like Sinn fein then I guess it would not cause any tears for the English.

This Fox Hunting debacle has shown them for the petty chancers we suspected, I think the Scottish people will learn by it and make different choices next time.
 
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Foxhunting in Scotland is about as popular as Shinty in London.
I think we have only a handful of active packs so not enough to bother folks.
Most see it as the end of bygone sports like cock fighting and badger baiting.

Fair enough.

Not the question tho was it? Why is the snp voting against a bill in westminster, while not changing the law in scotland?

Does it not seem a little hypocritical? Point scoring? **** stirring?

Truthfully
 
Fair enough.

Not the question tho was it? Why is the snp voting against a bill in westminster, while not changing the law in scotland?

Does it not seem a little hypocritical? Point scoring? **** stirring?

Truthfully

She is just playing Cameron at his own silly wee game.
Why would Cameron wish to strengthen the laws in England against the overwhelming views of the English population?
Is that not also hypocritical.
 
That would be silly, they are vermin, they kill for fun, not for food like other predators, a fox enters a hen house, kills every single chicken and then takes 1 away for dinner, lambs, sometimes calves. The numbers need maintained for a reason.

While I certainly agree that they kill every chicken in a hen-house they enter but I don't believe it's 'killing for fun'! A hen-house is an unnatural environment, - in the wild, all the others would have 'flown the coop'! So how it reacts to what it almost certainly perceives as a threat (the rest of the chickens flapping about - in panic) is just its natural defence imo! It's up to the keeper of the chickens to make the hen-house fox-proof imo!

The only animal (perhaps, well fed cats apart) that kills for fun, is Man! Every other animal's killing (including foxes - who are indeed vermin) is primarily about survival!
 
Thought they were proponents of devolved power! If they wanted to stay away like Sinn fein then I guess it would not cause any tears for the English.

This Fox Hunting debacle has shown them for the petty chancers we suspected, I think the Scottish people will learn by it and make different choices next time.

SNP support is rising (polls suggest up 10% since the GE).
The only thing that might slow, stop or reverse this trend would be a strong Labour party.
Guess that's not happening anytime soon. :thup:
 
What is very apparent in this thread is that there is no defence for their stance that stands up to the most casual observers questioning, let alone scrutiny. I find that quite telling.




Je suis Dolly.

Baaaaa. 🐏
 
What is very apparent in this thread is that there is no defence for their stance that stands up to the most casual observers questioning, let alone scrutiny. I find that quite telling.




Je suis Dolly.

Baaaaa. 🐏

Eh? What?

It's Politics - a particularly nasty, childish pastime/occupation performed by folk who have far too much power and opinion of their own worth - but are doing an essential job, occasionally quite well! Anything that you can get away with that causes 'the other side' grief is absolutely fine!

A bad play by Cameron (he should have waited for EVEL to be resolved); Simple covering move by SNP that actually gave them some relevance - something that I believe will be rare in this parliament! But that won't stop them from being noisy all the same!
 
Eh? What?

It's Politics - a particularly nasty, childish pastime/occupation performed by folk who have far too much power and opinion of their own worth - but are doing an essential job, occasionally quite well! Anything that you can get away with that causes 'the other side' grief is absolutely fine!

A bad play by Cameron (he should have waited for EVEL to be resolved); Simple covering move by SNP that actually gave them some relevance - something that I believe will be rare in this parliament! But that won't stop them from being noisy all the same!


And that's the 'progressive politics' that was part of their election platform is it?

Ill say it again, there is still no defence for their uturn that stands up to even the slightest scrutiny. It's all very well being 'noisy', 'causing grief' etc, but surely you should be able to make a defence of your actions that is even remotely believable?
They can't, their sheep like followers can't and there is a reason for that....it was indefensible.
 
And that's the 'progressive politics' that was part of their election platform is it?

Ill say it again, there is still no defence for their uturn that stands up to even the slightest scrutiny. It's all very well being 'noisy', 'causing grief' etc, but surely you should be able to make a defence of your actions that is even remotely believable?
They can't, their sheep like followers can't and there is a reason for that....it was indefensible.

In the favourite words of the Unionists after the referendum, " get over it ". :rofl:
 
So at least we're all agreed they are ALL hypocritical then.........

FTFY! :whistle:

There's 4 years of this sort of shenanigans before they all tuck their heads in and hope the voters forget how silly and childish their activities have been! And, of course, the voters do - or simply ignore it as 'politics'!

Ironically, it seems more likely that an MP will get kicked out for some 'non work-related' mini-scandal than for actually being incompetent or for fiddling expenses etc. - at least at the higher levels!
 
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