Forged vs cast wedges.

[spongebob59]

Guy I was with today was adamant that forged wedges are much better than cast for short game chipping etc.
I'm not convinced and think they just 'feel' better.
Any thoughts ?

He was using some very old pings and was quite tidy with them .
I try them for a shot and can't say I noticed any difference to my Cleveland's.

 

[Imurg]

2 of the biggest wedge makers - Vokey and Cleveland are cast.
Ping are cast, Callaway are cast....many more cast than forged on the market
I have an older MD2 which is forged and 2 newer MD3's which are cast and I can't feel a difference.

 

[spongebob59]

That would be funny if his 'forged' club was cast !
I'll have to ask what model it is next time and check .

 

[Foxholer]

There's an enormous amount of tosh spoken (and i'm probably about to add to that! ) about the benefits, or otherwise, of forged vs cast clubs!

If his were 'very old', it's quite likely they were cast - as Ping only started producing forged irons/wedges in 2011 or 2012!

Even forged wedges have different feel attributes - metal, finish, hosel length and a host of other things can affect feel! Vega and other Kyoei base forgings feel 'brighter' (cast-ish) than the likes of Miuras - which seem to me to use Vokeys as a 'model'.

I have a pair of Vokeys (cast) and an equivalent pair of (forged) Clevelands. They feel almost identical to me - and I'm quite sensitive to 'feel'!

You could ask the guy why so many tour players use (cast) Vokey wedges even when they are sponsored by other brands! Btw. Vokey does make forged wedges, but that is almost exclusively for the Japanese market, where cast is considered 'cheap' - so not as good !

 

[spongebob59]

They looked old as in well used, but I couldn't guess at the age.

 

[fundy]

Forged wedges for me, buttery soft, personal preference but give them over cast any day of the week

 

[Foxholer]

They looked old as in well used, but I couldn't guess at the age.

Bronzy colour?

Ping has also used (markedly) different metals. The most notable/desirable(?) being Beryllium/Copper alloy (especially putters). Get lovely patina as they 'age' beautifully'; very soft - cast of course! No longer available as extremely hazardous to health during mining/manufacture - but fine as a finished product!

 

[guest100718]

Forged wedges for me, buttery soft, personal preference but give them over cast any day of the week

You couldnt tell the difference.

 

[Tiger]

The difference is in the manufacturing process. Cast clubs are poured and as a result air bubbles can get trapped. This can impact on distance control. Forged have no air bubbles so better distance control. Feel is really driven by sound. I prefer the sound of my forged clubs over the cast ones I had before. I also find distance control much much better.

That said I still blow hot and cold like a temperamental shower 😂😂😂😂😂

 

[fundy]

You couldnt tell the difference.

of course i couldnt troll

 

[guest100718]

of course i couldnt troll

It's guff. The metal used is probably the least determining factor in what is perceived as feel.

 

[USER1999]

I've presently got Japanese domestic market forged wedges from a wedge specialist manufacturer. Do I like them? Yes. Are they better than the vokeys I have had before? Not really. I've had callaway forged too. Wedges are wedges. I'm far from convinced you can tell the difference.

I do like the shape of my Crews wedges though. That to me is more important?

 

[guest100718]

Forged wedges for me, buttery soft, personal preference but give them over cast any day of the week

I'd happily bet you couldn't reliably tell the difference between Forged and cast

 

[One Planer]

I've had forged Mizuno wedges and currentry play cast Cleveland's.

Can I tell the difference? Yes, but only just!

Middled, I cant tell the difference but on a slight mishit there is, to me , a different 'vibration' or sensation to the strike.

 

[fundy]

I've had forged Mizuno wedges and currentry play cast Cleveland's.

Can I tell the difference? Yes, but only just!

Middled, I cant tell the difference but on a slight mishit there is, to me , a different 'vibration' or sensation to the strike.

dont be daft mate, guest100718 has made it quite clear the likes of you and I cant tell the difference

 

[3565]

dont be daft mate, guest100718 has made it quite clear the likes of you and I cant tell the difference

Does that apply to drivers, irons, golf balls............ I think we're all useless and got no clue!!

 

[One Planer]

dont be daft mate, guest100718 has made it quite clear the likes of you and I cant tell the difference

I can also thell the difference between a Pro V1 and a TopFlite XL :thup:

 

[ger147]

I can also thell the difference between a Pro V1 and a TopFlite XL :thup:

Me too - one has Top Flite written on it and the other has Titleist written on it.

 

[bobmac]

How about butter and margerine?

 

[patricks148]

Ive only ever had Mizuno forged wedges, but ive tried others, Vokey/Callaway and Cleveland... all those felt harder than the MP10's ive got and all went a bit further.

the thing i found was it i hit it right out the middle i knew it with the forged, but with the cast all hits felt the same.