Flat wrist issue

[SaintHacker]

I've been working on correcting my natural tendency to cup my wrist at the top of my backswing, really concentrating on keeping it flat. Been going well and I'm getting some really good results with my irons and hybrid, however my woods have gone to ratpoop. Most shots are going straight right, with the occasional slice thrown in for good measure, which I thought the flat wrist was supposed to stop (flatten the swing and stop coming over the top). On the plus side I haven't hit anything left....
Any obvious pointers/cures, other than 'aim left'?

 

[bobmac]

Are the grips on your woods and irons the same?

 

[SaintHacker]

No

 

[bobmac]

Are the grips on your woods thicker than the grips on your irons?

 

[SaintHacker]

Are the grips on your woods thicker than the grips on your irons?

Not that I'm aware, or can feel. They're all just the standard grips that came with the clubs

 

[bobmac]

Difficult to say without seeing the swing.
Are you trying to flatten the left wrist to fix a problem?

 

[SaintHacker]

Yeah, to try and flatten the swing path a bit and stop coming over the top, and promote a bit of a draw. I wonder if its flattening too much with the woods and I'm playing a cover drive instead of a golf shot

 

[fundy]

Have you taken the glove off for both irons and woods

Get a video up for Bob to properly diagnose imho

 

[bobmac]

I don't see how flattening the left wrist will stop you coming over the top?
Changing from out to in to in to out is a big change and can take a long time.
You may be better sticking with a small fade.
But as Fundy said, a video down the line would help

 

[SaintHacker]

This is where i got the idea from.

I'm playing tomorrow so ill try and get someone to film me

 

[SaintHacker]

Ok, forum wont let me upload directly so I'll have to youtube it

 

[bobmac]

Have you hit it left in the past?

 

[SaintHacker]

Occasionally, bad shot tends to be a slice though

 

[SocketRocket]

Looks like you are a little slow with your hip rotation which is making your left arm chicken wing and your wrists flip. Slow the video through impact to see it.

 

[bobmac]

OK forget coming over the top, you don't (in the video above at least).
The problem I see is your grip. It's too strong.
At the top of your backswing your clubface is closed which will normally hit it left if you release properly, so you don't.
You hold off the release until after impact because if you don't, it's going left all day.



My advice would be to weaken the grip, (turn both hands anti-clockwise.)
Then try and hit it left, that should square up the face at impact.

 

[SaintHacker]

Ok I'll give it a go, thanks Bob

 

[SaintHacker]

Well early results are promising, anything from a baby draw to a full on hook, but no slice, so we're definitely making progress!?

 

[Jensen]

Whose the Geordie who filmed it ?

 

[fundy]

Well early results are promising, anything from a baby draw to a full on hook, but no slice, so we're definitely making progress!?

watch out for them Baby Draws they only end up one way lol

 

[Sweep]

Bob will advise better than me, but if I understand correctly, if your clubface is facing straight up at the top of the swing (which it appears to do) you are too strong and you will hit it left. As Bob says, to prevent that you stop releasing the club properly. How do I know? Been there, got several tee shirts.
Check your grip. I made the mistake of paying too much attention to my left hand (2 knuckles and all that) and ignored my right. After reading a post on here, I read Homer advising to buy a grip training aid that clips on the grip. The best one is by SKLZ. You can hit shots with it on on practice. I was amazed at how far over the top of the grip it had my right hand (so weaker). The first shot I hit with the trainer on was the first shot I had sliced in a decade. Keep going with it. You soon get used to it and the improvement is amazing.