Ferguson leaving Man Utd

Best of luck to Fergie in retirement, not sure we'll get another manager at a top club like that for 26 years.

With regards to Moyes, he has a tough job ahead of him if he goes to Old Trafford. The lack of trophies is a real worry and it feels a bit like when Roy Hodgson went to Liverpool, I'd take someone with top European experience over them any day (Mourinho, Heynckes)
 
Papas1982 said:
As much as I've defended Moyes to the hill. I'd still be surprised to see him there lol. Giggs, Scholes and maybe both Neville's would be quite a coaching staff as back up.
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Phil announced he is leaving Everton at end of season anyhow, so ya never know , Experienced Main man needed tho ..

For the record I hope you are right & Moyes stays
 
Papas1982 said:
no way was this known at start if season. Fergie wouldn't of retired if that hadn't won league. Not in his nature.
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Agree with this 100% - I suspect SAF has been planning it for a little while and then when MU pulled out a good lead over Citeh he started the ball rolling (probably talking to his successor) and I'd bet my mortgage payment that he would still be the manager next year if they hadn't won the league this year!
 
mikeb4 said:
who ever takes over has obviously got massive shoes to fill, Sir Alex has done a fantastic job, as he did at Aberdeen, maybe Sir Alex will want to come back and manage the club he most enjoyed playing for Dunfermline ! I reckon Moyes (ex Dunfermline) will get the job he has done well at Everton and this is the next step for him, imo Sir Alex spoke to Moyes months ago about succeeding him.
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Some real wishful thinking there mate but we can live in hope, who knows maybe he will buy us out and save us from administration :p

Personally I think Moyes will get the United job on the recommendation of Sir Alex, he has long been an admirer of the way Moyes goes about his job.

The word "legend" gets banded about way too often these days but in Sir Alex Fergusons this case its well deserved both as a United legend and a football legend
 
Papas1982 said:
http://transferleague.co.uk/league-tables/transfer-league-table-last-five-seasons.html

Copy and paste that. Hardly mega bucks!
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Interesting that. Thing is with these tables you can interpret them in many ways. Looking at that table then Arsene Wenger is working with nothing yet gets into the Champs League every year so he must be doing really well. Thing is as well you can sell a couple of players for megabucks and bring in 5 or 6 players at a decent cost and still have some cash spare which is esentially what Moyes has done since day one. It is not as if he has had to sell and then not given a penny to spend on the team this is simply not the case
 
Papas1982 said:
Google premierleague net spend and check that statement. He has spent a negative figure in his time there. The fact he signs players at mid level fees is because he sells players he develops. I'm not saying he should be picked, joSe record is clearly better. Just thing it's harsh how he's treated. I hope they make a statement on when Fergie decided because I very much doubt it's been decided as so many seem to think.
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Fair point mate,like I said I've nothing against Moyes & I'm not saying he as done a bad job at Everton,just think he should at least have Fa cup/Coca cola (or what ever its called now) to his name after 11 years. Who ever gets the job will be under serious pressure from the start.
 
In_The_Rough said:
Interesting that. Thing is with these tables you can interpret them in many ways. Looking at that table then Arsene Wenger is working with nothing yet gets into the Champs League every year so he must be doing really well. Thing is as well you can sell a couple of players for megabucks and bring in 5 or 6 players at a decent cost and still have some cash spare which is esentially what Moyes has done since day one. It is not as if he has had to sell and then not given a penny to spend on the team this is simply not the case
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I agree, all stats can be manipulated, but he's spent 60 m in 5 years. Thats peanuts in today's league, and then sold more. Bear in mind that does t include the biggest sale of Rooney. Personally I unless you're a top 4 team I don't think you have a decent shout a mt any title. I can't be bothered to look right now, but I'd suggest that 75 percent of trophies in last 10 years have been won by UTD/CITY/Arsenal, chuck in a few for spurs and Liverpool. And it's just good luck to get a trophy for the rest.
 
Think Rooney will almost certainly be on the way out if Moyes gets it. Seen a few tweets about Mourinho going with Bale and Ronaldo. Those two plus Van Persie would be frightening ...

That said, as much as I'd like to Mourinho there - can't see past it being Moyes.
 
Birchy said:
Its not all about money and transfers though is it? Moyes has played the same tactics for Everton since he has been there, press high with one up front and plenty behind the ball and be hard to beat. You need to be more flexible and just running your nads off and working hard isnt enough.

You need to be better to win at the highest level imo and Moyes hasnt shown me enough. Running close to stuff isnt an achievement either in my book. Every manager has been close to winning something in their career or sucess but doing it is another matter. Everton are a big club and should be in the top 8 comfortably.
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Birchy you need to play to your strengths. Its simple. Everton are run on a fraction of what Liverpool are run on. Everton have punched above their weight for a good number of seasons spending a fraction of the "big" teams. Moyes has been consistent and has had to wheel'n'deal.

£22 million for the racist thug. Moyes could only ever dream of that sort of money yet he's had Everton pushing Liverpool for years.

Sturridge £12m
Allen £15m
Borini £10m
Coutinho £8.5m


Rodgers couldn't even come close to lacing Moyes boots.
 
thecraw said:
Birchy you need to play to your strengths. Its simple. Everton are run on a fraction of what Liverpool are run on. Everton have punched above their weight for a good number of seasons spending a fraction of the "big" teams. Moyes has been consistent and has had to wheel'n'deal.

£22 million for the racist thug. Moyes could only ever dream of that sort of money yet he's had Everton pushing Liverpool for years.

Sturridge £12m
Allen £15m
Borini £10m
Coutinho £8.5m


Rodgers couldn't even come close to lacing Moyes boots.
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Couldn't agree more. Moyes will be a good appointment
 
Ian Dowie for me!

Then perhaps we can have the peace and quiet of a season with Man U in the Championship!
 
Papas1982 said:
I agree, all stats can be manipulated, but he's spent 60 m in 5 years. Thats peanuts in today's league, and then sold more. Bear in mind that does t include the biggest sale of Rooney. Personally I unless you're a top 4 team I don't think you have a decent shout a mt any title. I can't be bothered to look right now, but I'd suggest that 75 percent of trophies in last 10 years have been won by UTD/CITY/Arsenal, chuck in a few for spurs and Liverpool. And it's just good luck to get a trophy for the rest.
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Have to agree on most of what you say here. Was not for one minute saying that Moyes should have won the Prem but he still should have won 1 cup competition even if it was the egg cup. With regards to who has won trophies in the last 10 years don't think Chelsea fans will forgive you for not mentioning them;)
 
blackpuddinmonster said:
Great minds and all that :thup:
Apparently the successer is already known, something to do with the stock market and the risk of insider dealing. So an annoucment can't be far away.
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They are listed on the New York stock exchange, so they won't fart about naming a successor otherwise investors and the market get nervy.
 
Ive followed UTD for nearly 40 years and I cant stand Fergie but I totally respect him. Personally I think we need someone with a fresh approach and personality with a little showbiz status. I rate and would like to see Mourinho in place, he gives us the Champions League experience which is where the big money is and what the Glaziers will want more than anything else! He wont let Chelsea down though if hes given his word. Unfortunately its going to to go to that dullard Moyles.... purely because Fergie can mentor him from the back office as he has already suggested in his statement. Job done. Dont waste your cash on anything else. ;)
 
mikee247 said:
Ive followed UTD for nearly 40 years and I cant stand Fergie but I totally respect him. Personally I think we need someone with a fresh approach and personality with a little showbiz status. I rate and would like to see Mourinho in place, he gives us the Champions League experience which is where the big money is and what the Glaziers will want more than anything else! He wont let Chelsea down though if hes given his word. Unfortunately its going to to go to that dullard Moyles.... purely because Fergie can mentor him from the back office as he has already suggested in his statement. Job done. Dont waste your cash on anything else. ;)
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Dullard:rofl: not heard him called that before. So your saying Moyes will be virtually under Fergies watch. So when they have a bad result it will be Moyes fault and when they have a good one it will be because of Fergie's input;)
 
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