Fastest finger first. Booking tee times

[timd77]

I honestly cannot get my head around people thinking it’s ok to use a bot to book their tee times. It clearly isn’t equal opps because not everyone would know how to set this up or who to go to to set this up. And what if everyone did, how would this work? Bot meltdown?

Having a bot do it is clearly unethical. A bot reacts to the tee time becoming available far quicker than the human brain can react.

In the old ‘ball in a chute’ system, how would the club react if 1 player puts 3 extra balls in for their mates because they couldn’t be bothered to get there early enough? They’d get taken out and put to the back of the queue.

Seriously, some people would argue what colour the sky is.

 

[IanM]

I agree.
Isn’t this sort of Bot being banned when it comes to concert tickets and driving tests.
Slightly different scenario as it’s for personal use .

Think the comittiee know this is happening but what can they do it’s not illegal.

Doesn't need to be illegal for a club to suspend someone's booking rights.

Club just need to be sufficiently annoyed.

Bit like parking in the Captain's space, not illegal, but not very polite behaviour.

 

[HampshireHog]

Interesting that block booking a whole massive block of tee times you don’t actually need, only to release them later once you’re all sorted - so nobody else can plan their golf 7 days in advance other than you (a behaviour which IS antisocial) has attracted less ire than getting your home PC to automate 3 of the mouse clicks when you quietly book and then use a tee time same as anyone else.

Funny old perspective.

 

[clubchamp98]

Doesn't need to be illegal for a club to suspend someone's booking rights.

Club just need to be sufficiently annoyed.

Bit like parking in the Captain's space, not illegal, but not very polite behaviour.

Yes but we would face heavy sanctions if we persisted to park in the Captains parking place.

It’s not a visible “ crime” and most club members don’t even know you can do this never mind do it themselves.

Genuine Q what would happen if every member used a bot?
Are some bots better than others.?

 

[Arthur Wedge]

I wonder how many times people actually don’t get the tee time they want

Would suggest it’s not really a big issue as we all think - maybe in the winter with reduced tee times

The two groups I play in always appear to get the times and all other groups appear to get their times

 

[WGCRider]

The committee are a spineless self serving bunch who let a small number of people get away with behaving poorly just because they can’t be bothered dealing with them.

Hey my guy, it's all good - it's sounds like you are really showing those committee guys who's boss. I'm backing you to win this fight!

Whatever you need to do to justify your actions to yourself is your business but hope it's clear what this internet stranger (and most fair-minded people reading your posts) think of you.

 

[WGCRider]

A script is just auto-complete with bells on. Using auto-complete gives you a speed advantage over someone who chooses not to. Is anyone arguing against the use of auto-complete?
If a club decided they want to ban scripts, they would need a lawyer to draw up the definitions, or most of their members would be breaking it every time they made an online booking.

It's really not the same. Auto-fill is available to anyone using a computer or smartphone. It's a feature like spellcheck.

Please share your script or agent on your club whatsapp group so that it is also available to everyone. Please post the results here - I'm super curious - particularly on the the "lawyering up" part.

 

[Arthur Wedge]

It's really not the same. Auto-fill is available to anyone using a computer or smartphone. It's a feature like spellcheck.

Please share your script or agent on your club whatsapp group so that it is also available to everyone. Please post the results here - I'm super curious - particularly on the the "lawyering up" part.

How about Google it

Which is what others have prob done


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[Orikoru]

I'm actually glad my club doesn't have booking on the weekends now. Just drive down to the club and play golf. Couldn't be simpler.

 

[Arthur Wedge]

I'm actually glad my club doesn't have booking on the weekends now. Just drive down to the club and play golf. Couldn't be simpler.

Unless of course the time you want to play has a long queue of people waiting

 

[Beezerk]

Genuine Q what would happen if every member used a bot?
Are some bots better than others.?

We need some sort of bot off, see which is fastest.

 

[LincolnShep]

It's really not the same. Auto-fill is available to anyone using a computer or smartphone. It's a feature like spellcheck.

If you don't think it's the same, you don't understand it. Because you don't understand it, you think it's witchcraft.
Auto-fill is software, spellcheck is software, scripts are software.

 

[Orikoru]

Unless of course the time you want to play has a long queue of people waiting

Luckily that doesn't happen very often!

 

[rudebhoy]

It's really not the same. Auto-fill is available to anyone using a computer or smartphone. It's a feature like spellcheck.

Auto fill isn't the issue, at least not on BRS. It's the first click on the tee time when it becomes available. Once you've achieved that, you've got 3 minutes to complete the players' names, during which time the slot is locked to everyone else.

 

[clubchamp98]

We need some sort of bot off, see which is fastest.

More like a bot firewall.

Tech has been used in golf clubs for donkeys years.
I can see why people use them but can see it’s a big advantage some can’t / won’t use.
It’s more a moral question.

 

[Golf is fun]

In my opinion the bot topic is a red herring.

The real issue is that many clubs for various reasons are oversubscribed, and therefore there are too many people competing for too few tee times. The use of bots and wouldn't even be a discussion if this scenario didn't exist, same with topics like slow play, there will always be players who are slow sure, but the impact would be felt far less if courses were less loaded.

The question then becomes would you be prepared to pay 50% higher subs to have 33% less members at your club, and more tee times available? Assuming its a straight up replacement of subs, on the one hand there might be less overhead with less members but on the other hand less supplemental income such as food and drink.

 

[Bunkermagnet]

I'm actually glad my club doesn't have booking on the weekends now. Just drive down to the club and play golf. Couldn't be simpler.

Imagine what it would be like 7 days a week
I love it

 

[D-S]

Imagine what it would be like 7 days a week
I love it

We have booked times 3 days a week (Tuesday, Thursday and Saturday) and the rest are roll up. Works very well and satisfies both camps to some extent.
If all my golf had to be booked fastest finger at x time I think I’d move clubs.

 

[Bunkermagnet]

We have booked times 3 days a week (Tuesday, Thursday and Saturday) and the rest are roll up. Works very well and satisfies both camps to some extent.
If all my golf had to be booked fastest finger at x time I think I’d move clubs.

We are purely roll up 7 days a week. Satisfying everyone is impossible, but the last referendum we had gave a resounding "keep it as it is" so no tee bookings.

 

[Highfade]

We have an app that allows you to book 2 weeks in advance. So I generally book the same times well in advance to guarantee before the rush and cancel nearer time if not needed.

Side question:
What intervals are your clubs tee times set at?
Ours is on the hour and every 10 mins after.
Adequate time even for slower players to make enough progress to be out of range for following group.

Does your club have a starter to ensure groups don’t go off too early or late?