Fastest finger first. Booking tee times

The tech is available to anyone

There are even companies that can do it for you
It really isn't unless you look deeply into it. 99.99% of golfers will have no idea that this exists, I'm assuming it does exist based on your comments.

You think committees would be okay with members using this? Heck, it's available to anyone so why not? Impressive levels of tosh 🙄
 
It really isn't unless you look deeply into it. 99.99% of golfers will have no idea that this exists, I'm assuming it does exist based on your comments.

You think committees would be okay with members using this? Heck, it's available to anyone so why not? Impressive levels of tosh 🙄
I’m with you on this. I’m 45 so not old despite what my kids say! I had no idea you could automate or write scripts to book tee times for you, I wouldn’t even know where to start with it. I certainly would be annoyed if every single week the same people were getting all the preferential times because of using this method knowing I’d been spending so much time trying to do it the “right”
Way and losing out every single time.
 
What is the "right way" to book tee times? Is using this magic program against the rules? If not, then it is ok to use it. Do I like it?....not particularly. But then again, I have a decent list of things with golf that I would change if I could.....but a lot of other people wouldn't agree with.....which is ok. People just view things differently.....nothing wrong with that.
 
What is the "right way" to book tee times? Is using this magic program against the rules? If not, then it is ok to use it. Do I like it?....not particularly. But then again, I have a decent list of things with golf that I would change if I could.....but a lot of other people wouldn't agree with.....which is ok. People just view things differently.....nothing wrong with that.
It IS against the rules at my club. They issued a statement saying “bots” must not be used. I agree completely with this.
 
It IS against the rules at my club. They issued a statement saying “bots” must not be used. I agree completely with this.
Whilst I can accept this rule because I think it is written to attempt to promote fairness, how do they police it?

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The tech is available to anyone

There are even companies that can do it for you
Using a script or bot to book for you is absolutely not okay. I'd go so far to say that those that think it is are cheats.

Before you try to justify it to others (or yourself) answer this: would you be happy sharing this scrip with all other members at your club? Would you publicly post it here? Would you walk into the pro shop and tell them that this is how you book your tee time?

It also annoys me that clubs won't do anything about it. It's not that hard. Look at the tee sheet for the last 4 Saturdays 1 minute after signup has opened and phone those members and give them a warning
 
Using a script or bot to book for you is absolutely not okay. I'd go so far to say that those that think it is are cheats.

Before you try to justify it to others (or yourself) answer this: would you be happy sharing this scrip with all other members at your club?


I wouldn't be happy manually trying to book all the tee times for every other member of my club by clicking furiously at 08.00.00 or whatever, so that makes both methods exactly the same in that regard :D

They have every opportunity to do that for themselves though. Just like they have the opportunity to script something themselves using a simple widget on their web browser (or pay a cheap Indian programmer off one of the freelancing sites about £5 to do it if it's beyond them - it's really very simple to do).

The 'contest' is fair and open to all at the club (the contest is: who can be fastest off the mark to book a tee time when bookings open using the club's software and a web browser or app). Your choice whether you use a phone, computer, which browser, what cookie settings, whether you paid for fast internet, you're plugged into Starlink, etc etc. This being golf (so many users are not exactly at the tech cutting edge :D) there's probably people out there still using clunky Netscape or Internet Explorer while you're probably on speedy Chrome or Safari. Are you cheating them? Or using an App on their decrepit iPhone 6 while you use it on your iPhone 16? Another unfair advantage you reprehensible scoundrel! Some methods are faster than others but there is no requirement for you not to use the fast ones. I bet you're even able to do it by sending a letter to the club shop via Royal Mail - but if you choose that method then you won't be first. As a computer user you are being unfair to those using mail! You CHEAT!

Nah,not really; it was the same for everyone. You seem annoyed that other people are smarter and better at implementing a solution to the problem than you. You can either smarten up or remain angry and 2nd fastest, but it was a fair contest. One you lost.

Nearly everyone uses some version of "autofill" to fill names and addresses into forms on their web browser or various apps these days. Saves no end of time. If someone booked a tee time manually over the web where their name had been autofilled, saving then half a second, then is this also cheating? It's a type of script that speeds things up. No? If YOU'VE got it then it's OK......? The scripts we're talking about aren't much more than that to be honest - basically automate a few mouse clicks alongside the text autofill.

I don't even use anything like this with golf as I don't play on peak times - not my bunfight. I do admire rather than revile someone who is smart about how they solve problems though. I'm also amused by the inconsistency of the argument: "All technology that I have available to ME and I am able to use, that is all fine and I define as fair game - even if others can't understand or afford it or won't use it. Any technology that is a bit beyond ME so I am not able to use is a total disgrace" about sums it up... :LOL:

Lolz at your suggestion of a warning for anyone capturing the same tee time within one whole minute of it opening up every week too. Read upthread. The people doing it manually are organised teams and done and dusted in 5 seconds or less. If you need over a minute then no wonder you're getting beaten out and are a bit angry; you need to automate this more than anyone. ;)
 
I wouldn't be happy manually trying to book all the tee times for every other member of my club by clicking furiously at 08.00.00 or whatever, so that makes both methods exactly the same in that regard :D

They have every opportunity to do that for themselves though. Just like they have the opportunity to script something themselves using a simple widget on their web browser (or pay a cheap Indian programmer off one of the freelancing sites about £5 to do it if it's beyond them - it's really very simple to do).

The 'contest' is fair and open to all at the club (the contest is: who can be fastest off the mark to book a tee time when bookings open using the club's software and a web browser or app). Your choice whether you use a phone, computer, which browser, what cookie settings, whether you paid for fast internet, you're plugged into Starlink, etc etc. This being golf (so many users are not exactly at the tech cutting edge :D) there's probably people out there still using clunky Netscape or Internet Explorer while you're probably on speedy Chrome or Safari. Are you cheating them? Or using an App on their decrepit iPhone 6 while you use it on your iPhone 16? Another unfair advantage you reprehensible scoundrel! Some methods are faster than others but there is no requirement for you not to use the fast ones. I bet you're even able to do it by sending a letter to the club shop via Royal Mail - but if you choose that method then you won't be first. As a computer user you are being unfair to those using mail! You CHEAT!

Nah,not really; it was the same for everyone. You seem annoyed that other people are smarter and better at implementing a solution to the problem than you. You can either smarten up or remain angry and 2nd fastest, but it was a fair contest. One you lost.

Nearly everyone uses some version of "autofill" to fill names and addresses into forms on their web browser or various apps these days. Saves no end of time. If someone booked a tee time manually over the web where their name had been autofilled, saving then half a second, then is this also cheating? It's a type of script that speeds things up. No? If YOU'VE got it then it's OK......? The scripts we're talking about aren't much more than that to be honest - basically automate a few mouse clicks alongside the text autofill.

I don't even use anything like this with golf as I don't play on peak times - not my bunfight. I do admire rather than revile someone who is smart about how they solve problems though. I'm also amused by the inconsistency of the argument: "All technology that I have available to ME and I am able to use, that is all fine and I define as fair game - even if others can't understand or afford it or won't use it. Any technology that is a bit beyond ME so I am not able to use is a total disgrace" about sums it up... :LOL:

Lolz at your suggestion of a warning for anyone capturing the same tee time within one whole minute of it opening up every week too. Read upthread. The people doing it manually are organised teams and done and dusted in 5 seconds or less. If you need over a minute then no wonder you're getting beaten out and are a bit angry; you need to automate this more than anyone. ;)
That was a l o n g post. 😴
 
I wouldn't be happy manually trying to book all the tee times for every other member of my club by clicking furiously at 08.00.00 or whatever, so that makes both methods exactly the same in that regard :D

They have every opportunity to do that for themselves though. Just like they have the opportunity to script something themselves using a simple widget on their web browser (or pay a cheap Indian programmer off one of the freelancing sites about £5 to do it if it's beyond them - it's really very simple to do).

The 'contest' is fair and open to all at the club (the contest is: who can be fastest off the mark to book a tee time when bookings open using the club's software and a web browser or app). Your choice whether you use a phone, computer, which browser, what cookie settings, whether you paid for fast internet, you're plugged into Starlink, etc etc. This being golf (so many users are not exactly at the tech cutting edge :D) there's probably people out there still using clunky Netscape or Internet Explorer while you're probably on speedy Chrome or Safari. Are you cheating them? Or using an App on their decrepit iPhone 6 while you use it on your iPhone 16? Another unfair advantage you reprehensible scoundrel! Some methods are faster than others but there is no requirement for you not to use the fast ones. I bet you're even able to do it by sending a letter to the club shop via Royal Mail - but if you choose that method then you won't be first. As a computer user you are being unfair to those using mail! You CHEAT!

Nah,not really; it was the same for everyone. You seem annoyed that other people are smarter and better at implementing a solution to the problem than you. You can either smarten up or remain angry and 2nd fastest, but it was a fair contest. One you lost.

Nearly everyone uses some version of "autofill" to fill names and addresses into forms on their web browser or various apps these days. Saves no end of time. If someone booked a tee time manually over the web where their name had been autofilled, saving then half a second, then is this also cheating? It's a type of script that speeds things up. No? If YOU'VE got it then it's OK......? The scripts we're talking about aren't much more than that to be honest - basically automate a few mouse clicks alongside the text autofill.

I don't even use anything like this with golf as I don't play on peak times - not my bunfight. I do admire rather than revile someone who is smart about how they solve problems though. I'm also amused by the inconsistency of the argument: "All technology that I have available to ME and I am able to use, that is all fine and I define as fair game - even if others can't understand or afford it or won't use it. Any technology that is a bit beyond ME so I am not able to use is a total disgrace" about sums it up... :LOL:

Lolz at your suggestion of a warning for anyone capturing the same tee time within one whole minute of it opening up every week too. Read upthread. The people doing it manually are organised teams and done and dusted in 5 seconds or less. If you need over a minute then no wonder you're getting beaten out and are a bit angry; you need to automate this more than anyone. ;)

Share the fact that you use a script to book your tee time with your club pro or on your club whatapp group. Post back here with the results. I dare you
 
Using a script or bot to book for you is absolutely not okay. I'd go so far to say that those that think it is are cheats.

Before you try to justify it to others (or yourself) answer this: would you be happy sharing this scrip with all other members at your club? Would you publicly post it here? Would you walk into the pro shop and tell them that this is how you book your tee time?

It also annoys me that clubs won't do anything about it. It's not that hard. Look at the tee sheet for the last 4 Saturdays 1 minute after signup has opened and phone those members and give them a warning

We have a regular group of between 16 and 20 of us.....we play every Friday teeing off roughly around 11am, and every Sunday at around 10am.

When the booking becomes live for the following week, four of five of us agree which tee times each of us will book so we get consecutive tees. We just wait for the appointed time and as soon as the booking goes live we book the tees. No tech involved...just being prepared in advance and reasonably quick on the draw....and should the unthinkable happen and some other person quicker on the draw manages to get one of our desired tee times, we just have a quiet word via email, or, on the day, asking if they would be willing to swap with either our first or last slot. i reckon that as a group we get our 5 tees in well under 30 seconds.

Just because tees are booked quickly doesn't mean a script is being used....so you would be wrongly persecuting a group of golfers who choose to organize themselves to get the tee times they want. Its no different to the old days where folks would stand with pencils at the ready, waiting for a physical tee sheet to be pinned to the noticeboard.
 
We have a regular group of between 16 and 20 of us.....we play every Friday teeing off roughly around 11am, and every Sunday at around 10am.

When the booking becomes live for the following week, four of five of us agree which tee times each of us will book so we get consecutive tees. We just wait for the appointed time and as soon as the booking goes live we book the tees. No tech involved...just being prepared in advance and reasonably quick on the draw....and should the unthinkable happen and some other person quicker on the draw manages to get one of our desired tee times, we just have a quiet word via email, or, on the day, asking if they would be willing to swap with either our first or last slot. i reckon that as a group we get our 5 tees in well under 30 seconds.

Just because tees are booked quickly doesn't mean a script is being used....so you would be wrongly persecuting a group of golfers who choose to organize themselves to get the tee times they want. Its no different to the old days where folks would stand with pencils at the ready, waiting for a physical tee sheet to be pinned to the noticeboard.
What happens if they don't want to swap?
 
What happens if they don't want to swap?
I cannot remember it happening but our group would just have to lump it.

Politely let them know that our early groups will be putting out some NTP markers and ask them to put them back where they found them, if they have to move them.

9 times out of 10 we know the people involved so its not a big deal.
 
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