F1 Race

[Beedee]

The problem with Vettel is he is trying to extract 100% out of a car that is only delivering 80%. Hamilton is extracting 100% out of a car that is delivering 100%.
That 20% is the difference between success and failure.
Vettel is on the ragged edge almost every time he goes out. Le Clerc is going the same way, hence his accident on Sunday. Driver error.
I like Vettel. He has a great sense of humour, and is a good racer. I still feel he has a couple of WC's in him. I still think he has the passion, he certainly has the ability.
I wouldn't write him off just yet.

I agree the car is a dog this year and both drivers are clearly struggling with it. Don't agree about the car being the only difference tho. At the beginning of last season (before Ferrari got caught cheating with their engine) the car was very fast. But Vettel kept making silly mistakes against the Mercedes, and he kept being beaten by the relative rookie of Le Clerc.

I read Adrian Newey's autobiography a couple of years ago (very good read btw). He was blown away by Vettel's talent when he arrived at Red Bull and thought he was clearly something special. But that was a long time ago now.

 

[Beedee]

I'm not up to speed on the new rule changes next season but hopefully they go some way to achieve this.

Thanks to covid, the rules are relatively stable next season. The big changes have been put off till 2022. So the Ferrari will be a dog for at least one more year. And Carlos Sainz is kicking himself.

 

[SaintHacker]

I read Adrian Newey's autobiography a couple of years ago (very good read btw). He was blown away by Vettel's talent when he arrived at Red Bull and thought he was clearly something special. But that was a long time ago now.

As someone who is massively interested in the technical side of the sport I found that book fascinating

 

[SaintHacker]

Sad to see Checo lose a good seat, I can see Kimi retiring this year though, with Perez taking his seat

 

[robinthehood]

Thanks to covid, the rules are relatively stable next season. The big changes have been put off till 2022. So the Ferrari will be a dog for at least one more year. And Carlos Sainz is kicking himself.

Meanwhile Vettel will be in a Merc Powered Aston Martin, so will fancy a podium or 2 i'd say.

 

[ger147]

Hopefully Red Bull sign Perez for 2021, he deserves a good car and could deffo give Max a run for his money.

 

[bobmac]

I hope Hulkenberg gets signed up somewhere.
It's madness (or money) why the likes of Magnusson and Kvyat are still racing and Hulk isn't.

 

[Smiffy]

Hopefully Red Bull sign Perez for 2021, he deserves a good car and could deffo give Max a run for his money.

There's something I don't like about Perez. Can't quite put my finger on it. He comes across as a bit vindictive both on and off the track. He was trying his best to bully Ocon a couple of seasons ago. I don't trust him.

 

[golfbluecustard]

I hope Hulkenberg gets signed up somewhere.
It's madness (or money) why the likes of Magnusson and Kvyat are still racing and Hulk isn't.

Think it's still the case that certain drivers bring certain sponsors hence why it's not always the best drivers sat on the grid

 

[Bunkermagnet]

I thought Aston Martin were aligned to Red Bull now?

 

[robinthehood]

I thought Aston Martin were aligned to Red Bull now?

Nah that's alphatauri

Tracing point are rebranding as AstonMartin.

 

[Bunkermagnet]

Nah that's alphatauri

Tracing point are rebranding as AstonMartin.

Aston Martin Red Bull

 

[robinthehood]

I thought you were talking about the other red bull team, which is alphatauri.
The AM Red bull tie up end this year so, AM will be a team in their own right. Owned by stroll, but just tracing point underneath ?

 

[golfbluecustard]

Ferrari 's 1,000 G.P this weekend, sadly don't think it'll be a happy one ....

 

[robinthehood]

No, usual suspects a the top after FP2, both Ferraris in mid table.

 

[MegaSteve]

I thought Aston Martin were aligned to Red Bull now?

Aston Martin have had a change of ownership since signing deal to contribute to cost of developing the Honda powerplant...
Can't see that continuing now Stroll owns/controls AM...

 

[robinthehood]

Aston Martin have had a change of ownership since signing deal to contribute to cost of developing the Honda powerplant...
Can't see that continuing now Stroll owns/controls AM...

It's ending this year.

ALso Bottas must wonder what he has to do to beat Lewis! Fastest in all FP then get's pipped to the pole when it matters.

 

[golfbluecustard]

It's ending this year.

ALso Bottas must wonder what he has to do to beat Lewis! Fastest in all FP then get's pipped to the pole when it matters.

He is the perennial bridesmaid currently, but what's the alternative try and move teams in a full 2021 driver allocation or wait till 2022 and then potentially be in an inferior car

Am out all day so going to miss the race so will settle for highlights later, just hope it's as exciting and drama filled as last week, great to watch and helps to also break down the 'boring F1' tag a lot of people have

GBC

 

[Smiffy]

Am out all day so going to miss the race so will settle for highlights later, just hope it's as exciting and drama filled to break down the 'boring F1' tag a lot of people have
GBC

Looking at the track layout sadly I think it's going to be Monaco without the shops...........

 

[robinthehood]

He is the perennial bridesmaid currently, but what's the alternative try and move teams in a full 2021 driver allocation or wait till 2022 and then potentially be in an inferior car

Am out all day so going to miss the race so will settle for highlights later, just hope it's as exciting and drama filled as last week, great to watch and helps to also break down the 'boring F1' tag a lot of people have

GBC

Interesting article about Mercedes and a potential sale.

https://www.planetf1.com/news/ineos-buy-mercedes/