F1 Race

Far from a classic race today, pleased for Bottas though about time he had some luck go his way. Not sure why Verstappen got driver of the day, surely Gasly was more deserving.
Massive crash in the F2 again this morning, very glad to see both drivers walk away.
 
robinthehood said:
Yeah, not the most exciting of races, the stewards put paid to any excitement there might have been.
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Stewards had no option, it's their job is to enforce the rules.

And the only difference to the race is Hamilton not lapping round at the front keeping a gap to Bottas.

Stupid of Mercedes to miss the race director's instructions re. race starts and give Hamilton duff information.
 
Very cutting comments from Hamilton after the race, emotional still no doubt, and rules are rules but if Mercedes and Hamilton aren't aware of them / or interpret them differently then they definitely need clarifying, just now too late

Hope the next race is more racing and less rules / time penalties

GBC
 
I do actually feel bad for Hamilton for not winning - we would have seen his "I'd like to apologise for my incorrect comments about the shooting of Breanna Taylor" T-shirt.
 
I think DC should come down off the fence and say what he really thinks of the stewards.
Interesting how the stewards changed their minds about giving Lewis's penalty points and fining the team instead.
So Lewis lost points, the team lost points and 25,000 Euros over a grey area in the rules. (DC's words, not mine)
 
bobmac said:
I think DC should come down off the fence and say what he really thinks of the stewards.
Interesting how the stewards changed their minds about giving Lewis's penalty points and fining the team instead.
So Lewis lost points, the team lost points and 25,000 Euros over a grey area in the rules. (DC's words, not mine)
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Apparently the penalty points were rescinded and the penalty changed to a team fine as the team instructed Lewis to do his practice starts outside of the designated area. So it wasn't Hamilton doing it off his own back, the team gave him duff instructions.
 
ger147 said:
Apparently the penalty points were rescinded and the penalty changed to a team fine as the team instructed Lewis to do his practice starts outside of the designated area. So it wasn't Hamilton doing it off his own back, the team gave him duff instructions.
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I know, so why punish Hamilton, the race hadn't even started.
The stewards basically said we aren't giving LH two penalty points on his license because Lewis wasn't at fault but because he was at fault, we have given him 2x5 second penalties.
The decision was announced on lap 7 of 53, hardly time to investigate thoroughly.

Am I right in thinking 3 of the 4 stewards aren't ex racing drivers?
 
bobmac said:
I know, so why punish Hamilton, the race hadn't even started.
The stewards basically said we aren't giving LH two penalty points on his license because Lewis wasn't at fault but because he was at fault, we have given him 2x5 second penalties.
The decision was announced on lap 7 of 53, hardly time to investigate thoroughly.

Am I right in thinking 3 of the 4 stewards aren't ex racing drivers?
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The driver is often punished for team mistakes e.g. grid penalties for mechanical problems.

The time penalties were an open and shut case as soon as the stewards confirmed he had done his practice starts outside of the designated area and that broke whatever rule they were quoting. Not saying I agree with the ruling, just saying once they decided it was a rule breach then the penalties wouldn't take long to decide upon.

Since 2010, 1 of the 4 stewards at each F1 grand prix is an ex-racing driver.
 
ger147 said:
The time penalties were an open and shut case as soon as the stewards confirmed he had done his practice starts outside of the designated area and that broke whatever rule they were quoting.
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But the core probloem here is that the "designated area" is ambiguously defined in the rules.
Hamilton did his practice starts in a place that could conceivably be interpreted as within the designated area. The stewards didn't think so, but it's down to interpretation.
 
cliveb said:
But the core probloem here is that the "designated area" is ambiguously defined in the rules.
Hamilton did his practice starts in a place that could conceivably be interpreted as within the designated area. The stewards didn't think so, but it's down to interpretation.
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Hence DC's comment about the grey area and why Rule 19 will be rewritten before next season.
 
cliveb said:
But the core probloem here is that the "designated area" is ambiguously defined in the rules.
Hamilton did his practice starts in a place that could conceivably be interpreted as within the designated area. The stewards didn't think so, but it's down to interpretation.
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Not at all, the designated area is defined for every track as part of the briefing the teams are given before every race...

https://drivetribe.com/p/hamiltons-...EC1TSJSzZNf_ppszfA?iid=NlM2U8QhTMSV1VFO2W-wUw
 
In other Hamilton related news, the latest is he is about to put pen to paper on a new 3 year £120m contract with Mercedes. Nice work if you can get it.
 
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