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Also seems they are going to stop the team principals speaking to Race Control during the race
Could be a good thing, though could also be something of a knee-jerk reaction.
Worth assessing reasons for/against it (team principals being able to make suggestions) and why it as allowed/provided in the first place.
 
It’s interesting that she tweeted that a short time before the official Mercedes statement.

I wonder what kind of deal has been cut for Merc to drop the appeal?
I wanted Mercedes to appeal. Not to snatch the title of Max and give it to Lewis. That would have been unfair on Max for something he was not at fault for. And, it wouldn't be how Hamilton would want to he given the title.

I wanted them to appeal so that the FIA had to be held accountable. However, within this breaking news, it appears the FIA are willing to take responsibility, and that things were not handled the way they should have been. So, that is probably for the best. We know what happened on Sunday was wrong, even if some can't bring themselves to admit it (as Susie said)
 
Sensible for the benefit of the sport as a whole. Even if Mercedes did appeal, they'd lose at the FIA level, and say they took it further, the remedy at any higher level would surely be financial rather than altering the result of the Championship.

I was surprised that the FIA took responsibility in the way that they did, even if they didn't go as far as admitting fault. It has tarnished the sport when it was on the biggest possible stage.
I think this paves the way for Masi to either step down entirely or be demoted. They are already restructuring the old Charlie Whiting role and putting in more of a team around Masi, so suspect he will either step down or move away from race day operations.

As you mention, it’s a shame this has been the fallout but now time to move on.
 
I think this paves the way for Masi to either step down entirely or be demoted. They are already restructuring the old Charlie Whiting role and putting in more of a team around Masi, so suspect he will either step down or move away from race day operations.

As you mention, it’s a shame this has been the fallout but now time to move on.
Nobody has had the Charlie whiting role. He had may different hats. Masi only took the race director role and that's the problem, Charlie knew the rules and understood the spirt in which they where written... He wrote them, Masi didn't.
 
I wanted Mercedes to appeal. Not to snatch the title of Max and give it to Lewis. That would have been unfair on Max for something he was not at fault for. And, it wouldn't be how Hamilton would want to he given the title.

I wanted them to appeal so that the FIA had to be held accountable. However, within this breaking news, it appears the FIA are willing to take responsibility, and that things were not handled the way they should have been. So, that is probably for the best. We know what happened on Sunday was wrong, even if some can't bring themselves to admit it (as Susie said)

I don’t think there are any (sensible) people that want the result overturned. I know I don’t. I would be astonished if Lewis Hamilton did, that just wouldn’t be the right outcome now.

What I want though, is the FIA investigation / report and recommendations to be public. I feel, as a fan, I need that so I know when I tune in come March that we won’t see this happen again. Very much as Susie Wolff says.
 
Somehow, I get the feeling she's not a current fan of Masi ;)
Might be a touch of 'personal bias' in there though!

I don’t really see any bias. Is there anyone that thinks what Masi did was right?!

I can understand Verstappen fans thinking that he is the most deserving winner of the title looking at the season as a whole, but they can think that whilst also recognising Masi making a unilateral decision on how the rules should apply, in a way that they’ve never been applied before, is not right.

I would have been gutted had Lewis lost the Championship regardless of the circumstances, but the way it happened is beyond belief.
 
I don’t think there are any (sensible) people that want the result overturned. I know I don’t. I would be astonished if Lewis Hamilton did, that just wouldn’t be the right outcome now.

What I want though, is the FIA investigation / report and recommendations to be public. I feel, as a fan, I need that so I know when I tune in come March that we won’t see this happen again. Very much as Susie Wolff says.
I think fans will almost definitely need to be informed. After all, there appears to be an agreement that Sunday was very damaging for F1's reputation. So, providing a fairly open investigation is surely what is required for fans to get some faith back.
 
I think fans will almost definitely need to be informed. After all, there appears to be an agreement that Sunday was very damaging for F1's reputation. So, providing a fairly open investigation is surely what is required for fans to get some faith back.
I suspect that while some of that might happen, it won't be 'open' and fans will align themselves with suggestions that(appear to) help their own 'favourite(s)'. Basically I'd guess that 90+% favour/support specific teams/drivers.
 
He was the best out and out racer going. Right on the limit of everything. He drove like he wasn’t afraid of death. Proper proper racer for me
You missed my (rather obtuse I admit) point.:rolleyes:
I was tempted to post 'Whoosh' here too just to continue the charade/irrelevance.
Btw. I agree with what you stated above.
 
Have I got this wrong?
The FIA will fine Lewis Hamilton if he doesn't attend the end of season bash in Paris to celebrate Max's win.
If true, I'd be surprised if Lewis doesn't tell them where to stick it and retire tomorrow
 
Have I got this wrong?
The FIA will fine Lewis Hamilton if he doesn't attend the end of season bash in Paris to celebrate Max's win.
If true, I'd be surprised if Lewis doesn't tell them where to stick it and retire tomorrow
Top 3 are supposed to attend. Been a rule for years.
 
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