F1 2021

[Deleted member 30522]

I'd say Fangio personally. To win 24 races in 51 starts in a era where the cars were so fragile is nuts.

Senna is the best ive seen in the time I've watched F1.

Senna, Fangio or Clark all have a genuine claim to GOAT, not Lewis, he can fight for 4th with Stewart & Schumacher

 

[theoneandonly]

FIA won't CAS might. CAS will definitely tell FIA to get their house in order for the future.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/formula1/59681314

 

[Swango1980]

Senna, Fangio or Clark all have a genuine claim to GOAT, not Lewis, he can fight for 4th with Stewart & Schumacher

Why do Lewis or Schumacher not have genuine claims? Mind you, this is only your opinon, which I am happy not to respect anyway

 

[theoneandonly]

I think they will take it further, not necessarily to overturn the result, but to see Masi out of a job and tightening up of some rules.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/formula1/59681314

 

[Deleted member 30522]

Still 7 Championships though - and that (alone) seems to be the metric
How do they measure Tennis? Snooker? Darts? et al.
Never any doubt (well, not to me) had Masi made a different decision though!

Not in F1, times have changed greatly, it used to be competitive, now unless you're in the right car, maybe two right cars if you're lucky, then you have no chance. Plus in earlier times you might die, and many did. Clark died, Senna died, how many could either have won? Fangio was 39 by the time they initiated a world championship

 

[Canary_Yellow]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/formula1/59681314

Sensible for the benefit of the sport as a whole. Even if Mercedes did appeal, they'd lose at the FIA level, and say they took it further, the remedy at any higher level would surely be financial rather than altering the result of the Championship.

I was surprised that the FIA took responsibility in the way that they did, even if they didn't go as far as admitting fault. It has tarnished the sport when it was on the biggest possible stage.

 

[bobmac]

This bit was absolute drivel - "He tells you you are now all square and you have to give your opponent a shot up the last. "

Were they not side by side at the last lap restart with Max on fresh soft tyres?

 

[Canary_Yellow]

Not in F1, times have changed greatly, it used to be competitive, now unless you're in the right car, maybe two right cars if you're lucky, then you have no chance. Plus in earlier times you might die, and many did. Clark died, Senna died, how many could either have won? Fangio was 39 by the time they initiated a world championship

All fair points, Hamilton is still the GOAT for me though. I think he's a brilliant role model to go with being a brilliant driver.

 

[Swango1980]

Were they not side by side at the last lap restart with Max on fresh soft tyres?

Don't bother. He ignores facts that don't suit his agenda

 

[Jimaroid]

As you say, subjective. So, in my mind the answers I've provided are 100% correct. No one else's opinion will change mine, and my opinion will change no one else's.

I totally agree. But yours are wrong.

 

[Deleted member 29109]

Don't bother. He ignores facts that don't suit his agenda

For someone not interested in F1 he’s got a lot to say on the subject.

 

[Canary_Yellow]

Susie Wolff nails it here....

https://twitter.com/x/status/1471400042527346689

 

[Foxholer]

Not in F1, times have changed greatly, it used to be competitive, now unless you're in the right car, maybe two right cars if you're lucky, then you have no chance. Plus in earlier times you might die, and many did. Clark died, Senna died, how many could either have won? Fangio was 39 by the time they initiated a world championship

IYO!
But the metric is still there!
Though I accept your point about Fangio

 

[Foxholer]

Susie Wolff nails it here....

https://twitter.com/x/status/1471400042527346689

Somehow, I get the feeling she's not a current fan of Masi
Might be a touch of 'personal bias' in there though!

 

[Deleted member 30522]

For someone not interested in F1 who barely watches F1 anymore he’s got a lot to say on the subject.

Fixed that for you.

 

[Deleted member 29109]

Susie Wolff nails it here....

https://twitter.com/x/status/1471400042527346689

It’s interesting that she tweeted that a short time before the official Mercedes statement.

I wonder what kind of deal has been cut for Merc to drop the appeal?

 

[Deleted member 30522]

Were they not side by side at the last lap restart with Max on fresh soft tyres?

No they weren't, and why miss the rest of my point?

 

[theoneandonly]

It’s interesting that she tweeted that a short time before the official Mercedes statement.

I wonder what kind of deal has been cut for Merc to drop the appeal?

There is no deal why would there be . Merc were never going to push on with it. Especially as SLH didn't want them to. The FIA are going to conduct Thier own review of what happened, they have to really as the fallout has been so bad.

 

[theoneandonly]

No they weren't, and why miss the rest of my point?

Give it a rest or get a room with Bob and swango. Max is WC and we move on to big rims and ground effect.

 

[Deleted member 29109]

There is no deal why would there be . Merc were never going to push on with it. Especially as SLH didn't want them to. The FIA are going to conduct Thier own review of what happened, they have to really as the fallout has been so bad.

Mercedes will have been insisting on certain issues being addressed to prevent a situation like Sunday happening again.