F A Cup 4Th Round

The FA Cup is a shadow of what it was.Premier teams really don't give a toss about it.

I think they still do. The fans certainly do. It's the Carling/Worthington/Coca Cola/Milk/Capital One/What the hell is it this season? cup that no-one gives a toss about. The FA Cup is still THE day out at Wembley. One of the few good decisions the FA have made (and you can count them on the thumbs of one hand) is not to change the name of the FA Cup to that of whoever sponsors it, although I suspect it was driven more by vanity than common sense.
 
I think they still do. The fans certainly do. It's the Carling/Worthington/Coca Cola/Milk/Capital One/What the hell is it this season? cup that no-one gives a toss about. The FA Cup is still THE day out at Wembley. One of the few good decisions the FA have made (and you can count them on the thumbs of one hand) is not to change the name of the FA Cup to that of whoever sponsors it, although I suspect it was driven more by vanity than common sense.

Sorry but disagree. The FA Cup changed the season that Man U decided to go to the World Club Champs instead of playing in the cup. It showed that top clubs didn't really care about the cup, and since then, Premier clubs have mainly put out second string sides. Previously, it was the first team out all the way. Further, cup replays used to be seen as just as exciting as the main tie; now they are a mere inconvenience.
 
Sorry but disagree. The FA Cup changed the season that Man U decided to go to the World Club Champs instead of playing in the cup. It showed that top clubs didn't really care about the cup, and since then, Premier clubs have mainly put out second string sides. Previously, it was the first team out all the way. Further, cup replays used to be seen as just as exciting as the main tie; now they are a mere inconvenience.

I understand the point you're making, but I'd stick by my point. Whilst teams may blood youngsters or choose squad players to try and rest some senior players, they still put out a team that they think will still get them through. It's a calculated risk. Look at who got to the semi finals of the other cup and you see that it is that competition where the real stiffs come out. As for Man USA's pull out, I personally think that says more about the arrogance of that club than the standing in which other clubs hold it.

Since we are discussing football, is Gianfranco doing a good job at Watford?
 
Sorry but disagree. The FA Cup changed the season that Man U decided to go to the World Club Champs instead of playing in the cup. It showed that top clubs didn't really care about the cup, and since then, Premier clubs have mainly put out second string sides. Previously, it was the first team out all the way. Further, cup replays used to be seen as just as exciting as the main tie; now they are a mere inconvenience.

Whether the clubs see it as important or not (and most Premier and Championship teams use it as a tester for the kids), the fans still love it. As far as I'm concerned, the attitude of the clubs is irrelevant, the fans are the important thing.....
 
plunging crowds would suggest not.

Not all Premiership clubs don't treat the FA Cup with respect.

I'm a Everton fan and both games we have played our full strength first team against teams we could have took the chance and rested players against.

Plus we sold out our allocation of 6,000 tickets at Bolton and even had fans in the home end so i would say that fans still love it.
 
Sorry but disagree. The FA Cup changed the season that Man U decided to go to the World Club Champs instead of playing in the cup. It showed that top clubs didn't really care about the cup, and since then, Premier clubs have mainly put out second string sides. Previously, it was the first team out all the way. Further, cup replays used to be seen as just as exciting as the main tie; now they are a mere inconvenience.

Are you sure about that?

It was my understanding that the FA forced Man Utd to play as Champions of the PL and representatives of the UK.

A case of you're damned if you do and damned if you don't!
 
Not all Premiership clubs don't treat the FA Cup with respect.

I'm a Everton fan and both games we have played our full strength first team against teams we could have took the chance and rested players against.

Plus we sold out our allocation of 6,000 tickets at Bolton and even had fans in the home end so i would say that fans still love it.

With what 7k Everton fans there it was still only marginally better than Bolton's season average,a season when they have been poor.Home fans didn't share the same enthusiasm then sadly.

Yes your fans traveled the shortish journey well but in general the crowds have been falling for a few years now for this cup that hasn't the stature it once had.

Edited to say only Brighton game had an above average attendance and many had season lows versus league.
 
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