Everyone breaks the rules

[bobmac]

While visiting a nearby club, I was chatting to a few members who had just come off the course.
They had been playing the first round of the plate. (match play).
When I asked what the 3rd member of their group was doing, they replied all 3 of them were also playing the medal.
When I said you can't really play match play and stroke play at the same time, one of them said "everyone does it"

Now, no-one got hurt, they didn't win anything in the medal and they were just trying to catch up with matches after all the snow. But.....

Does your club choose to ignore some of the rules of golf.

My flabber was V-Gasted

 

[robbest3offthetee]

Bob, Ive known this done at my club and thought it a bit strange playing 2 comps at the same time ,doesnt seem right to me!!

 

[patricks148]

I've played in a stroke play knockout and we both played the wednesday sweep stableford at the same time. Is this breaking the rules too?

 

[bobmac]

I've played in a stroke play knockout and we both played the wednesday sweep stableford at the same time. Is this breaking the rules too?

Not if they're both stroke play

 

[DCB]

Since strokeplay and matchplay have different outcomes to certain rules I don't understand how anyone can try to play two formats at the same time.

It's hard enough concentrating on a strokeplay score without letting your mind wander into the intricacies of matchplay

 

[Bacardibatman]

as a junior i had to do that once

the guy i was playing was hardly at the club due to Boarding school and had not turned up to play on the correct day,i was told it had to be replayed (although another guy got a bye for same thing,guess it was who i was playing a future captains son....fair enough,personally didnt have a problem with that)

the next time he was at the club there was on a stroke play comp too we were told to play together and play both matches by the junior organiser which we ok'd with club secretary. obviously there was no gimmies and everything was putted out.

but i also have seen it in a mens match where the pair were giving each other putts but also playing a medal (blatant cheating)

as a junior i didnt raise it,was no point as juniors were considered lowest of the low

 

[HRC99]

Never heard of anyone doing this. Seems crackers.

You'd never dream of playing some of the shots you might need to in a matchplay situation with a card in your hands.

What's next, Texas Scramble and a Medal?

 

[Ethan]

You are not allowed to play stroke and matchplay at the same time. Decision 33/1-6.

Q. In ignorance of the Rules, A and B played a match and concurrently competed in a stroke-play competition. What should the Committee do?

A. Under Rule 33-1, the result of the match is null and void, and A and B are disqualified in the stroke-play competition.

If the match was to be played on any day in a prescribed period, A and B must replay the match within the prescribed period. If it was too late for A and B to replay the match within the period, A and B are disqualified from the match play competition, unless one concedes the match to the other.

 

[bobmac]

You are not allowed to play stroke and matchplay at the same time. Decision 33/1-6.

I know the rule, I was asking
"Does your club choose to ignore some of the rules of golf"

 

[Ethan]

You are not allowed to play stroke and matchplay at the same time. Decision 33/1-6.

I know the rule, I was asking
"Does your club choose to ignore some of the rules of golf"

No offence meant, Bob, just commenting on the general discussion. My club does not ignore these rules.

Some clubs think they have discretion to change the rules. Years ago, I was on the first tee for a medal. Member walks up to join next group and told his mates he had a new set of irons and he had played a few holes this morning with them. One of my playing partners asked "Did you play here?", bloke said that he had, "sorry, mate, you can't play in the medal then. Rules of Golf". Guy has a seizure and storms up to clubhouse, comes back and said the Secretary said he could play in the medal. My playing partner had to point out that the Secretary did not know the Rules, because if he did he would know that he has no discretion to change this one. Eventually, Secretary had to agree.

 

[freddielong]

I wouldn't do it but given that our matchplay comps have a completion date (round must be played by) I bet it happens

 

[Parmo]

Yes we do it, the club don't know we do it, but if its a comp you are not that bothered about why not?

Not played whilst two in the same fourball, played two comps in different ones i.e. bext net score won the match play game and we both got Medal cards put in as well.

I know it goes on.

 

[jammydodger]

Couldnt say it goes on at our place as I havnt witnessed it , it may go on though.

I wouldnt even have given it a thought tbh , that is to say I wouldnt ever do it. My life is far too organised to let it get to that stage. No medal or stableford comp is important enough to have to play in it at the same time as a matchplay game surely ???

 

[goldenbare]

I have seen match play games played during stroke play rounds but can't understand why people want to do it.

the whole Psychology is different when it comes to the one on one. The subleties of gamesmanship come in to it whether its an early gimme from a distance to over praise for average shots or standing that little bit closer than you would normally to a nervy player.
playing it in a stroke play round would take out all these little nuances

 

[HomerJSimpson]

I'm sure it must go on at our place probably through ignorance rather than naything else. I've played a stableford in the morning and then gone out to play a match in the afternoon which I thought was the correct way to do it if both have to be played on the same day

 

[Jabba]

I believe that is it's Stablford and match play you can do them in whichever order is convenient Homer.

 

[Region3]

I can't say I've ever seen it happen, and can't even imagine wanting to do it myself.

What would you do if you had a tricky left to right downhill 25' putt for a half? Give it a chance and risk 3-putting in the medal or lag it for a 2-putt and virtually concede the hole in the match?

 

[Region3]

I believe that is it's Stablford and match play you can do them in whichever order is convenient Homer.

You're not allowed to play on the course before an individual competition whether it be stableford or a medal, so the matchplay would have to be second.

 

[USER1999]

At my last course we had a medal every saturday. So we played in it. We had a roll up, so we bunged money in a pot, and played stableford for the cash, and we were medalling in 4s, so why not bung the balls in a hat.

So, stroke play, stableford, and better ball match play simultaneously.

And round in 3 1/2 hours.

My current club, medal, 3 balls, 4 1/2 hours.

It might be against the rules, but I know what I preferred.

 

[Fyldewhite]

We do not condone breaking the rules and we would certainly never run two competitions officially concurrently. However we do know it goes on. For example, players finding it difficult to arrange a KO match may play it in the weekly Medal on Saturday, I've even seen this be done when the players are not in the same group by comparison of cards afterwards (obviously all putts are holed in these scenarios). In the grand scheme of things this seems better than simply tossing a coin or both being eliminated but it is against the rules and the decision is clear even though I think disqualification from the stroke play event is harsh. There is the issue of different rules and penalties but in reality how often does this really matter? Rules is rules I suppose but our club certainly puts the spyglass to the blind eye on this one.