EU Referendum

[ColchesterFC]

I've read the headlines about Gove and they don't seem to tally with the couple of stories that I have gone on to read. These quotes in particular seems reasonable........

"Ultimately, immigration is a good thing for Britain and for Scotland. But if immigration is to be controlled, then we have to be outside the European Union because within the EU there is no means by which we can control the number of people who come from other EU nations."
"If, in the course of the negotiations, the Scottish Parliament wants to play a role in deciding how a particular visa system could work, much as it works in other parts of the European Economic Area, then that is something we'll look into.
"Ultimately, the numbers who would come in the future would be decided by the Westminster parliament and the Holyrood parliament working together."


or is this just being used as another way to criticise the Leave campaign? I can't see anywhere that he is suggesting border controls between Scotland and England.

 

[SocketRocket]

Ahem.....they are not my statements, they were comments made by two Brexit politicians.
You must obviously disagree with them.

Grosly exaggerated as normal to suit your xenophobic agenda.

 

[Foxholer]

I've read the headlines about Gove and they don't seem to tally with the couple of stories that I have gone on to read. These quotes in particular seems reasonable........

"Ultimately, immigration is a good thing for Britain and for Scotland. But if immigration is to be controlled, then we have to be outside the European Union because within the EU there is no means by which we can control the number of people who come from other EU nations."
"If, in the course of the negotiations, the Scottish Parliament wants to play a role in deciding how a particular visa system could work, much as it works in other parts of the European Economic Area, then that is something we'll look into.
"Ultimately, the numbers who would come in the future would be decided by the Westminster parliament and the Holyrood parliament working together."


or is this just being used as another way to criticise the Leave campaign? I can't see anywhere that he is suggesting border controls between Scotland and England.

But these ones don't!....

http://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/67...ael-Gove-immigration-Vote-Leave-EU-referendum

http://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/b...nd-new-immigration-powers-says-gove-tlvbzr3v5

http://www.theguardian.com/politics...-immigration-quotas-snp-scottish-independence

And for a 'neutral' comment....

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-scotland-politics-36515897

 

[ColchesterFC]

It was the BBC story I took the quotes from. I still haven't seen anywhere that he has suggested border controls between Scotland and England that was suggested by a previous poster, even in any of the links you've posted. Yes he's said that Scotland could decide who moved there but that's not the same thing. I would assume that if Scotland needed more nurses they could put a weighting on the points required to move to Scotland as a nurse. If England or Wales didn't need nurses at that particular time then the points weighting would be lower. If that nurse who had moved to Scotland then wanted to relocate to somewhere else in the UK they would still have to apply for that position and would go by whatever weighting was in use in that particular region.

 

[Deleted member 18645]

If you want to control the borders between England and Scotland, you could put a wall up. They did that the last time the Scots had a decent football team

 

[woody69]

If you want to control the borders between England and Scotland, you could put a wall up. They did that the last time the Scots had a decent football team

So, never?

 

[Hacker Khan]

The bloody EU are at it again, interfering and overturning our laws. Can we not set any laws ourselves anymore, did St George, Richard the Lionheart and Rod Hull die in vain for this !!!! http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-36526158

 

[ColchesterFC]

Had the Remain leaflet through the door today. Like the Leave leaflet that came through last week the are lots of statements without any facts or evidence to back them up. Why are both sides of the campaign so intent on not providing anything to support their statements?

 

[Hacker Khan]

Had the Remain leaflet through the door today. Like the Leave leaflet that came through last week the are lots of statements without any facts or evidence to back them up. Why are both sides of the campaign so intent on not providing anything to support their statements?

Possibly because no one actually knows what will happen so they are both slagging off the other side and occasionally spewing out predictions to reinforce which ever stance they support? Plus political campaigning nowadays consists 90% on what is wrong with your opponents and 10% at best on what you will actually do. So you can't be held to account for not doing it if you win.

 

[Doon frae Troon]

If you want to control the borders between England and Scotland, you could put a wall up. They did that the last time the Scots had a decent football team

Hey you.............. I'll have you know that Scotland have not conceded a single goal in major football finals since 1998.

 

[Doon frae Troon]

Anyone know what will happen to our Passports and mobile roaming charges if Brexit win ?

 

[ColchesterFC]

Anyone know what will happen to our Passports and mobile roaming charges if Brexit win ?

Nothing for two years. After that no idea. But I'm sure that Leave have it covered.

 

[Fish]

Hey you.............. I'll have you know that Scotland have not conceded a single goal in major football finals since 1998.

That's because you've not been in any :rofl:

 

[Lord Tyrion]

Ultimately nobody knows. It makes sense for everyone for certain things to remain the same but there may be a certain level of unravelling.

 

[Hacker Khan]

Anyone know what will happen to our Passports and mobile roaming charges if Brexit win ?

it will cost more to use your passport to phone home from EU countries??

 

[Old Skier]

Anyone know what will happen to our Passports and mobile roaming charges if Brexit win ?

The passports issue ill be the same as before we joined a common market - Belgium/Holland, no bugger at the boarder, just drive straight through - rest of the EU, cursory glance if they could be bothered and on your way - lets hope we get our nice blue ones back.

 

[Foxholer]

It was the BBC story I took the quotes from. I still haven't seen anywhere that he has suggested border controls between Scotland and England that was suggested by a previous poster, even in any of the links you've posted. Yes he's said that Scotland could decide who moved there but that's not the same thing. I would assume that if Scotland needed more nurses they could put a weighting on the points required to move to Scotland as a nurse. If England or Wales didn't need nurses at that particular time then the points weighting would be lower. If that nurse who had moved to Scotland then wanted to relocate to somewhere else in the UK they would still have to apply for that position and would go by whatever weighting was in use in that particular region.

:rofl: :rofl:

 

[drdel]

David Cameron has all the answers, well he did a few years ago when he spoke and wrote vehemently about getting out of the EU. However, of course, he was a backbench MP looking for an upward move in UK politics.

10 years on he's changed his tune - could it be he's looking to move upwards in EU politics

 

[Hacker Khan]

David Cameron has all the answers, well he did a few years ago when he spoke and wrote vehemently about getting out of the EU. However, of course, he was a backbench MP looking for an upward move in UK politics.

10 years on he's changed his tune - could it be he's looking to move upwards in EU politics

You do realise that the position of most Tory MPs in this debate is mostly driven by their naked political ambition and very little about how they actually feel about Europe. There's only about 17 tory MPS who are mostly quite old that passionately care about is being out of Europe and see it as a major issue. I suspect most of them would say up is down if it meant a shot at a major position in the government.

 

[Old Skier]

You do realise that the position of most Tory MPs in this debate is mostly driven by their naked political ambition and very little about how they actually feel about Europe. There's only about 17 tory MPS who are mostly quite old that passionately care about is being out of Europe and see it as a major issue. I suspect most of them would say up is down if it meant a shot at a major position in the government.

No different than any other MP in any party then.