Norrin Radd
Tour Winner
its going to be tough for us now ,but ,we still have some quality batters to come ,lets hope they can hold on for the draw.
England v India Series
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Tongo
Journeyman Pro
Oh well! On to Mohali. Think Duckett may be getting a rest.
HomerJSimpson
Hall of Famer
Very disappointing capitulation again
Tongo
Journeyman Pro
Quote from the Full Toss Twitter feed: 'India too good in their own back yard.'
Sadly this will be overlooked by the ex-pros now putting the boot in with gusto. Is it any surprise that England crumble in spinning conditions when they rarely play in anything remotely close at home?
Another Twitter quote: England lose by 246 runs. Kohli's contribution? 248 runs.
TMs retweeted this. Honestly. When is sport ever that simple?! And they are supposed to be experts on the game!
Sadly this will be overlooked by the ex-pros now putting the boot in with gusto. Is it any surprise that England crumble in spinning conditions when they rarely play in anything remotely close at home?
Another Twitter quote: England lose by 246 runs. Kohli's contribution? 248 runs.
TMs retweeted this. Honestly. When is sport ever that simple?! And they are supposed to be experts on the game!
Norrin Radd
Tour Winner
folded like a cheap suit, not that i could have done any better.
Piece
Tour Winner
Standard Indian wicket, with the result largely influenced by the toss. If the remaining pitches are similar, just hope we get lucky with the toss.
Duckett isn't good enough for these wickets. I'd argue he just isn't good enough full stop. Needs a lot of surgery on that technique. Only real option is to get Buttler in....not famed for this feet movement either!
Duckett isn't good enough for these wickets. I'd argue he just isn't good enough full stop. Needs a lot of surgery on that technique. Only real option is to get Buttler in....not famed for this feet movement either!
Norrin Radd
Tour Winner
time to put Sam Billings in the team ,he played a lot of IPL last year so has experience of playing in India and of playing against the indian spinners.
Tongo
Journeyman Pro
I'd imagine the average IPL track is set up a little differently than the test equivalents though. The IPL dont want to see teams skittled out for next to nothing. They want to see the bowlers dispatched into the stands on a regular basis.
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World of difference between test cricket and the IPL in regards both the pitches and the standard faced
Duckett does need to be taken out of the limelight - expect Buttler will come in
Also think Broad will miss out with his injury and Finn will come in
pendodave
Tour Rookie
Agree that Duckett needs some time away. Now that Jimmy has officially given up batting, I wonder if Woakes might be a better shout. Though they were saying that the next pitch has some bounce, so might suit Finn better. If they are not going to bowl the left armer, perhaps both?
fundy
Ryder Cup Winner
expect it will be a straight swap Woakes for Broad if the latter isnt fit (I expect they save him and hope to get him on the park in Mumbai)
as for Duckett, theyve dug themselves a hole here really. The extra batters they have in the party are the unselectable Ballance and the reserve keeper Buttler (who was dropped for not getting enough runs too) that they didnt bring another proper top 4 batter after the bangladesh tour appeared a poor decision at the time and looks even worse now, that said not sure who they bring in either!
big argument that a couple of those batting down the order are going to have to step up and bat higher up
could see a line up of Cook, Hameed, Root, Moeen, Stokes, Bairstow, Buttler, Woakes, Rashid, Ansari/Finn, Andersen
whilst we are strong with all rounders, we definitely lack out and out batting options (not to mentions spinners!)
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The lack of decent spinner ( offspin ) out there makes the choice of Batty and Ansari even more wrong - neither spin the ball enough to be attacking spinners
What about pick Woakes. move Bearstow and Stokes up one and play Finn as well if they are going to rest Broad (injured perhaps)??
England at probably betting going with its strengths in Seam bowling.
I remember South Africa won a series against India a few years ago with no spinners.
fundy
Ryder Cup Winner
3 batters, 3 all rounders, 2 keepers and 3 bowlers. feels awfully light on batting (i thought my side did already!) Think I agree I rather have the extra seamer just happy to leave Ansari out on that basis
I'm not sure I'd pick Joss, unless he was going to keep and Jonny looks to have improved his keeping.
Id go;
Cook
Hameed
Root
Ali
Stokes
Bearstow
Woakes
Rasheed
Ansari or Ball
Finn
Anderson
HomerJSimpson
Hall of Famer
We proved in the second innings we can take wickets but it's the way the batsmen seem to collapse en masse once a wicket goes that's the bigger worry. Duckett a long way from a test player on this showing. Not sure what they do though to make changes other than Woakes for the injured Broad. If the next pitch is reliant on the toss of a coin lets hope Cook gets the call right
Piece
Tour Winner
Finn...just don't rate him. Was a 90mph bowler, but now it's more like 80mph. On these wickets and his potential to drop in a couple of pies per over, means they'll be queuing up to face him. Been wrong before though 
Tongo
Journeyman Pro
Not quite sure what to make of today. Good stuff from Bairstow and Buttler but England may have missed a trick.
Having said that there appears to be some turn and Umesh Yadav was getting some reverse swing so there may be some hope for England's bowlers.
Having said that there appears to be some turn and Umesh Yadav was getting some reverse swing so there may be some hope for England's bowlers.
fundy
Ryder Cup Winner
yet again the batting hasnt given the bowlers enough runs to play with, too many gave it away (buttler, stokes for sure) really struggle to see how we are competitive only getting 300 batting first, fully expect we give up 100+ lead first inns again
Tongo
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Love the way this England team manage to confound the obvious! Shame Ashwin and Jadeja put on a bit of a stand. Quick wickets tomorrow would put England marginally ahead methinks.
