Pin-seeker
Well-known member
There’s a difference between needing and wantingðŸ‘ðŸ»
Has anyone on here actually said they need a drink?
There’s a difference between needing and wantingðŸ‘ðŸ»
Has anyone on here actually said they need a drink?
SwingsitlikeHogan
Major Champion
Well if the airlines decide we can't drink alcohol on planes then you don't have to worry about making a choice.
Del_Boy
Head Pro
I could charter my own flight
Lazkir
Head Pro
It's never going to happen. Can you imagine the first and business class passengers accepting that? Half of the deal with those classes is all the 'free' champagne and premium spirits.
Unless of course we have one rule for them and another for the cattle class?
Hacker Khan
Yurt Dwelling, Yoghurt Knitter
I don't need it, in the same way I dont need in flight entertainment or a decent amount of leg room. But then again it is nice as a fully grown adult to be able to be given a choice of all those things on a long flight to make it slighly more enjoyable. I'm sure no one 'needs' to drink alcohol in a pub when they are out with mates, at a dinner party etc etc, but again a lot of people do (as long as they are not breaking any laws) as it makes it more enjoyable. Enjoying a drink for the vast majority of people does not mean you have a problem with alcohol.
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Don Barzini
Assistant Pro
Pretty sure they do that at the moment anyway.
Orikoru
Tour Winner
Flights are pretty boring as it is, if someone wants a couple of glasses of wine with a travel companion to help it go by that's not the same as "needing alcohol to have fun" or "having a problem" for god's sake. 😆
Absurdly ridiculous taking it to such an extreme
Let's ban bottles of water from supermarkets in case people run around smacking old people over the heads with them too. As you say, 'just because you want to do something doesnt mean you should be allowed to do it'
Slab
Occasional Tour Caddy
I'd agree that when booking a trip ‘survival’ of the flight is a primary concern I have. However that normally manifests itself in wondering if an engine will fail or the undercarriage might collapse etc, so to suggest that survival for the average passenger is due to whether they are able to get an alcoholic drink in the airport/on board is absurd
Surely the LP rule for society isn't; even if its generally harmless, if it reduces moron behaviour and you can survive without ‘it’ then all freedom of choice should be removed?
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Those of us who wouldn’t welcome a complete alcohol ban as a solution to combat the actions of the tiny minority of idiots are not lobbying for the right to do something illegal. We don’t want to juggle flaming sambucas in the aisles. Choosing to drink alcohol and behaving within the limits a society sets is already completely legal and accepted as part of normal behaviour
The thread is not about an alcoholics experience when flying. We’re not talking about every passenger (who is currently able to choose whether to drink in an airport/on board) having some kind of alcohol dependency or addiction issue that means they’d have a hard time flying/functioning if they had to ‘go without’ for a few hours
The overwhelming number of people drink responsibly when travelling (millions) Why ban alcohol in totality because of a failure to properly manage (& punish) the morons who don’t drink responsibly? It’s an extreme (some might say lazy) response to a problem, it’s just not proportional. Like the sledgehammer to crack a walnut thingy
Doubtless it’d be a doddle to whip up a bit of legislation to ban alcohol on flights originating/terminating in the UK (& the loss of jobs and revenue/tax that goes with that decision) & much easier than tackling just the offenders… but that’s kinda what society is supposed to do, you know make rules and laws to cover acceptable actions/behaviour that only the offenders are penalised for breaching, while non-offenders are free to make choices in how to live their lives within the boundaries of those rules
When the tiny minority threaten to become the majority then its time to ban things
It would certainly be easier to just ban theses morons from having any drink (or even flying in the first place) but I don't have a ready suggestion on how we accurately identify them (I certainly wouldn't suggest starting with societies 'moron' stereotypes
)If you ban everything that an idiots behaviour might do harm to others there's really not much left. Some on here would have us living in some kind of stasis reality... here's a typical solution we'd see from some posters on this forum: Since its not just alcohol that's the singular cause to problem passengers/idiots/morons on aircraft, why not medical knock-out the passengers after boarding and revive them on arrival!
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Deleted member 15344
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You aren’t in a pub though or having a dinner party with your mates - you are thousand of feet up in a pressurised cabin. When something goes wrong in a pub with booze the person leaves or is kicked out , minimal affect on the rest of the pub - do it on a plane and it 9/10 affects the whole plane - including being diverted , grounded as soon as possible, escorts by fighter planes and potential to cause serious danger to all passengers.
The number of arrests due to alcohol is on the rise , the number of incidents is on the rise - it wasn’t that long ago it was “nice†to have a cigarette on the plane, many grumbled when that ban came in , now all flights smoke free.
It won’t be long before the flights are dry and I’ll welcome it
https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/amp....anes-it-time-ban-plus-what-do-drunk-neighbour
https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www....mas-cook-tui-easyjet-drinks-a8702696.html?amp
Beezerk
Money List Winner
I'm going to propose they close the bar at my golf club for good. Theres this one knob who gets smashed and is an absolute @rse sometimes, spoils it for everyone else in the clubhouse.
It will help with reducing drink driving as well so win win ðŸ‘
It will help with reducing drink driving as well so win win ðŸ‘
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Deleted member 21784
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https://tfl.gov.uk/info-for/media/p...-tube-trams-and-buses-from-this-sunday-1-june
We banned it in 2008.. can’t believe it was that long ago
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Deleted member 15344
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It’s not really a comparison is it - if this guys goes mental they don’t have to divert the flight , have a very dangerous possible incident at 10,000 feet with everything costing the airline thousands - which would have a big knock affect to the passengers.
If someone is unruly in the clubhouse - refuse to serve him ask him to leave - simple
Wolf
Well-known member
How is that anyway compatible to some moron getting leathered before or during a flight this potentially causing harm or danger in a pressurised environment at 10,000 feet+ which can have a knock effect of costs into 1000s of pounds for the airline, the emotional drain and fear it can cause to people, plus the cost of resources to scramble fighter jets as escorts, then theres the time it take so family holidays. All because some absolute bellend or group of them decides to get lashed up.
If the same knob decides to get trollied at the golf club. Simple answer to that one is the barman refuses service and if he goes to drink drive a simple phone call to the old bill to escorts him to a different type of bed for the night and removal his licence. Much easier to deal with that than it is in plane.
If you don't want it banned that's fine but don't try and compare it to your golf club that's just absurd.
USER1999
Grand Slam Winner
The fun police are out in force today.
Serious question off the back of that though. Is it enforced. Often see people with a can of lager on a train, especially mid-late evening travelling back from Central London. I guess if it's in a coat pocket/bag and they aren't visibly drinking on a platform its next to impossible to police but I'm not 100% convinced the network is totally dry
Beezerk
Money List Winner
I think you’ve been watching too many of those naff Hollywood blockbusters mate lol.
Btw just to clarify for the black and white brigade, my post was tongue in cheek ðŸ‘
Wolf
Well-known member
Not at all mate just thought a ridiculous comparison, considering fighter jets were scrambled for Jet2 incident its hardly watching blockbusters that lead to a genuine comment based on fact.
Hard to yell what's tongue on cheek though when reading some posts on here some of the guff people come out with on here lately 😂
Orikoru
Tour Winner
I'm not sure how they can really. At rush hour I often see the Polish builders drinking a can of Tyskie on the tube. Diane Abbott famously flouted the ban recently of course. You always see groups of tarts drinking their Lambrini on the way into London in the evening as well.
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Deleted member 21784
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I haven’t worked on stations for many many years, prob since this ban came in.. impossible to enforce unless it’s people being obvious
Then again the smoking ban is almost impossible to enforce you still see people doing it.. just the general public steer them in the right direction or staff if their actually seen
Vaping is banned but I’m sure people do it
