Would people be happy to pay more on their ticket for airports and flights to be dry?
Prices would definitely increase
Prices would definitely increase
It is easy to eject someone from a concert, cinema, fete, even a train journey. Once up in the air however resolving an issue with a drunk and abusive person starts to become a matter of safety for everyone and a plane diverting is both inconvenient and hugely costly for an airline.
Prices move around now already so if a flight goes up by £10 do you really notice anyway? It is not as though a ticket from Heathrow to Barcelona is fixed at £100 for example is it? If it meant the flight was calmer and safer I would accept the increase, along with every other charge you get hit with when booking a flight.
USER1999
Grand Slam Winner
I am always against changes that are introduced to stop a minority from doing something, in such a way as the harmless majority are affected. Deal with the idiots. 10 year travel bans should do it.
clubchamp98
Journeyman Pro
I would not ban it totally.
What I would do is send this idiot/ idiots the bill for the cost of changing course with all the associated costs including the cost of scrambling two fighter jets ( that can’t be cheap) and compensation to other passengers.
This might just make others think twice .
People are scared of flying but this sort of behaviour makes that fear worse.
By the way I can’t understand why they needed two fighter jets .
Was it just as an escort ? One would have done.
What I would do is send this idiot/ idiots the bill for the cost of changing course with all the associated costs including the cost of scrambling two fighter jets ( that can’t be cheap) and compensation to other passengers.
This might just make others think twice .
People are scared of flying but this sort of behaviour makes that fear worse.
By the way I can’t understand why they needed two fighter jets .
Was it just as an escort ? One would have done.
Slab
Occasional Tour Caddy
I'd say finding & identifying Mr Drunkard in a crowd of 20,000 or more is extremely difficult compared to a plane although I take your point about getting external assistance to the general location
Anyway should our measure of whether to serve alcohol really be set at the response time/ease of ejection from the location when bother starts? Something does need to be done to improve the safety, security and experience for 99.9% of flyers but that doesn't have to be an all out alcohol ban and a drunk on a plane should face stiffer penalties than a drunk at a summer fete because of the associated dangers/costs you mention
You have to believe that a good number of trouble makers are already pie eyed before they board. How / why do they get through the system and be allowed to board? I wonder how much trouble could be avoided by people being refused entry onto a plane before it sets off. It would be interesting to hear the views of people in that industry. They will know the issues, problems, solutions better than we will.
Back to the original question, I still have no issue with drinks being barred, safety is paramount and people will just adapt and get on with it.
Dibby
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It's standard practice for combat and escorting unidentified\potentially troublesome aircraft. It means the planes can configure themselves such that whatever manoeuvre is made by opponent\escorted aircraft. it creates a favourable attacking position for one of the escorts\combatants.
CliveW
Tour Winner
As stated, the problem lies in the terminal. Airports make a lot of money from the retail experience after you check in. Once through security, passengers are in "holiday" mode and therefore tend to spend money in duty free shops and pubs. Having a few drinks at the airport before flying seems to be the norm, even in the early hours of the morning as bars are open 24/7, and once on board an aircraft the alcohol is more readily absorbed into the blood as the pressurisation is the equivalent of 8, - 10,000 ft and therefore the oxygen levels are lower than at ground level.
Incidentally, it is illegal to enter an aircraft when drunk or under the influence of drugs and carries a maximum fine of £5,000 and two years in jail. The prison sentence for endangering the safety of an aircraft is up to five years and disruptive passengers can be asked to reimburse the airline if the flight has to be diverted which can typically be between £10,000 and £80,000 dependant on flight, aircraft etc.
Incidentally, it is illegal to enter an aircraft when drunk or under the influence of drugs and carries a maximum fine of £5,000 and two years in jail. The prison sentence for endangering the safety of an aircraft is up to five years and disruptive passengers can be asked to reimburse the airline if the flight has to be diverted which can typically be between £10,000 and £80,000 dependant on flight, aircraft etc.
clubchamp98
Journeyman Pro
That’s if they are going to shoot it down.
Was this scenario a shooting it out of the sky because of some stupid drunk?
If it was a terrorist attack I can see the logic but that is a scary proposition.
Was it poor communication from the plane.
If this idiot had managed to get in the cockpit and the plane was compromised what’s the outcome.
Shoot it down with all passengers onboard or let it crash on a big city.
All for a few drinks.
Changed my mind I would ban alcohol on all flights and airports.
clubchamp98
Journeyman Pro
“can be askedâ€
Can they be prosecuted and forced?
Orikoru
Tour Winner
I don't really enjoy flying so I tend to try and sleep for as much of the flight as possible. On the rare occasions I have stayed awake and had a drink (mainly stag dos) it seems to always be a luke-warm 330ml can of Heineken, so I can honestly say I would not miss that at all, were it no longer an option. 
SwingsitlikeHogan
Major Champion
Don't drink so it wouldn't bother me - and I don't think Mrs Hogan would be that bothered either. On our recent travels we took a total of 21 flights and as many were quite short range alcohol wasn't served - or maybe Air Asia and Smile don't serve alcohol on any flights
SwingsitlikeHogan
Major Champion
Interesting that you feel that you would suffer by not being able to drink alcohol on a flight? I'm thinking you don't actually mean 'suffer' as such - other than suffer loss of amenity.
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Deleted member 18645
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Can't we find a way to design planes where we can just eject these people out mid-air?
OK sorry need to go back to reading the comments on the Daily Mail website for other sensible ideas.
OK sorry need to go back to reading the comments on the Daily Mail website for other sensible ideas.
Slab
Occasional Tour Caddy
Yeah it seems strange that there's so much security to pass through that covers many things like weapons etc and means the innocent have to undergo lots of checks etc but a bladdered ned can stagger up to the boarding gate and as long as he can stand up straigh'ish when handing his boarding card he'll generally get on board!
I've seen folks get refused but given the instances we read about it seems it should be a far more regular occurrence to refuse travel
Its not that easy to get pee'd up just due to alcohol drunk on a plane. The frequency of getting refills and the small measures take care of that. So I'd agree that they've probably taken a skinful in departures etc (& that itself is in part a side effect of not being able to take liquids through and having to be there 2 hours before flying etc)
Stag & Hen Do's used to be a couple of hours 'in town' not a 3 hour flight away and lasting a week. I'm sure we'v e all seen them in departures bars up & down the country and hoping to gawd they're not on our flight
Orikoru
Tour Winner
Some mates that I've been on flights with were actually really scared of flying so have bought a bottle of whiskey from duty free (or tax free or whatever it is) and necked half of it before getting on. I usually have a couple of pints in the airport but you don't really get long enough to get slaughtered, we're normally only in the lounge about 45 minutes before boarding.Yeah it seems strange that there's so much security to pass through that covers many things like weapons etc and means the innocent have to undergo lots of checks etc but a bladdered ned can stagger up to the boarding gate and as long as he can stand up straigh'ish when handing his boarding card he'll generally get on board!
I've seen folks get refused but given the instances we read about it seems it should be a far more regular occurrence to refuse travel
Its not that easy to get pee'd up just due to alcohol drunk on a plane. The frequency of getting refills and the small measures take care of that. So I'd agree that they've probably taken a skinful in departures etc (& that itself is in part a side effect of not being able to take liquids through and having to be there 2 hours before flying etc)
Stag & Hen Do's used to be a couple of hours 'in town' not a 3 hour flight away and lasting a week. I'm sure we'v e all seen them in departures bars up & down the country and hoping to gawd they're not on our flight
Marshy77
Journeyman Pro
I like a drink on the plane. Starts the holiday off.
Slab
Occasional Tour Caddy
All depends how many mates is 'some'
Three guys going through half a litre in 45 minutes is a bit much to be honest, but 10 sharing the same amount and its not nearly as bad
BTW congrats on the handicap cut, just seen it in your signature
Orikoru
Tour Winner
I meant two different mates on separate occasions, not the two of them together. Both (supposedly) had a fear of flying and came up with the same solution.All depends how many mates is 'some'
Three guys going through half a litre in 45 minutes is a bit much to be honest, but 10 sharing the same amount and its not nearly as bad
BTW congrats on the handicap cut, just seen it in your signature
Cheers man.
