Done with Supporting Scotland

[StuartD]

Went along to the Scotland v Australia game last night which I have to reluctantly say will be my last

My mate got into a bit of a heated discussion at the Australia goal with a guy behind us who was slating Alan McGregor for loosing the goal. My mate defended McGregor and was accused of being a hun (Dunfermline supporter, but not that it really maters)

We were planning to leave early and it was probably a mistake to get to our feet just when Ian Black was coming on but we did not really give to much of a look until we heard the booing. We shook our heads in bewilderment/disgust at the booing dished out to him (I will leave the debate on the why and right and wrongs to others) as we made our way past other fans. The guy behind us who my mate had a disagreement with earlier leapt to his feet shouting that you (multiple swear words) Huns are no (swear word) welcome here. This brought our leaving to the attention of other fans as we made our way up the steps to the exit.

We made our way up the steps with abuse ringing in our ears and many spitting towards us. Now I am big enough and ugly enough to look after myself but I also had my 4 year old son with me.

After making it into the concourse behind the stand I had to wipe the phlegm from my sons hair, face and coat. I too had a fair amount on my coat. My son was very quiet on the way home and to be honest slightly shocked by the whole episode and when putting him to bed he told me he didn’t want to go back there again.

I have been a member of the Supporters Association and its previous incarnation, the travel club since 1992 but I can’t see myself returning any time soon. Does it really matter about which club you support? One of us as stated is not even a Rangers fan At the end of the day we are all there to support Scotland.

The Tartan Army Spokesman Hamish Husband (Yes that’s a real name) has been silent today when he should really be speaking out. This man was quick to speak out when a Scottish/Rangers player wished to play in the Olympics stating that the Tartan Army would turn against anyone who did so. Silly comments like this can go a long way to cause the nutter element to take things into their own hands.

PS There were one a few fans decrying the actions of many. I wish I could go back and thank them but I just wanted out of there. One old gent in particular who got to his feet and challenged the idiots deserves a mention. He could barely stand without his stick and looked so frail but he was certainly prepared to defend us.

 

[CMAC]

Thats appalling, your poor boy being subjected to these vile degenerates with a pack like mentality, and they wonder why the game suffers in Scotland. How can any grown men (I use that term loosely) spit all over a 4 year old boy!!!!! beggars belief.

I fully agree with you not going back, hope your son isnt too scarred by the violence shown towards you and he takes up Golf and other team sports where the fans are a bit more intelligent.

 

[Alex1975]

I am absolutely gutted for you! I have no idea about football, even less about Scottish football but to carry on like that disgusts and sickens me. You had your son in your arms and your own fans were spittingat you… I want F and blind, what a joke. I really feel for your poor little boy, how the hell do you explain that to him?

 

[FairwayDodger]

Stuart, I heard the booing of Black and thought it an embarrassing state of affairs. These guys are picked for the team and on the night the supporters should support them - all of them.

What you have described is even worse; I'm unable to adequately express how I felt reading that. Absolutely terrible - especially for your wee lad; I hope he gets over it and doesn't let it put him off.

As an aside, I had a ticket for the game last night as well but took ill so couldn't go. I'm almost glad after reading your account.

 

[Dodger]

Stuart I have to say that no matter the rights or wrongs of Blacks inclusion booing him is an utter disgrace.

What happened to yourselves I can understand.....now I am in no way condoning it but it shows the level of hatred,yes hatred,that is felt towards The Rangers now after all the recent shennanigans.

The one thing I really like about following Scotland is that club issues are set aside and you never see a club flag at the games unlike our English counterparts so again I'll say this shows the level of disgust fans have for your club now.

What I cannot understand for the life of me is why abuse could be subjected to anyone who has a young kid in tow.....that is utterly unforgivable no matter what the circumstances are/were.

On a plus point,I have just re-joined,yes I know I cannot stand Avril but I really fancy some of the home games and more so Serbia in March and if you resign it'll mean one more out the way for tickets.......in fact just you carry on and get me 2 for Serbia away and you'll harvest some points should you wish to continue!!

Seriously though,bad bad craic for an army of supporters who love to cry from the roof tops about how self policing they are..........truth is I have seen it for my own eyes on away trips they can be anything but,but thankfully those sort of incidents are few and far between.

 

[Alex1975]

The one thing I really like about following Scotland is that club issues are set aside and you never see a club flag at the games unlike our English counterparts so again I'll say this shows the level of disgust fans have for your club now.

We are not spitting at our fellow supporters and their young childeren!!

 

[Dodger]

We are not spitting at our fellow supporters and their young childeren!!

I didn't realise I said you were?

Must have missed that bit.:mmm:

 

[Val]

Shocking behavior

 

[SwingsitlikeHogan]

Unfortunately IMO it is the bile that The Rangers supporters (yes - it sounds daft I know) are spouting about the Scottish national team and supporting Scotland that has given rise to this situation. Just try reading some of the utter c**p they are posting on their forums (try the Bears Den for one). It's hardly surprising that a lot of Scotland supporters are sick to the teeth of that mob.

That said - the behaviour and abuse that you and your lad experienced is repulsive, disgusting and absolutely unacceptable - and reps of the TA and the likes of HH should make that very clear to all Scotland supporters. I am sure that there are many, many The Rangers supporters who are fed up and sick to the teeth with the situation over their own club - but remain proud Scots and Scotland supporters. With them we should sympathise and embrace in the Scotland fold. Those that blame the rest of Scottish football for their woes and ongoing troubles, and who spout the bile they do about us and the Scottish national team can just get...lost (replaces the two words I'm thinking)

 

[Adi2Dassler]

Went along to the Scotland v Australia game last night which I have to reluctantly say will be my last

My mate got into a bit of a heated discussion at the Australia goal with a guy behind us who was slating Alan McGregor for loosing the goal. My mate defended McGregor and was accused of being a hun (Dunfermline supporter, but not that it really maters)

We were planning to leave early and it was probably a mistake to get to our feet just when Ian Black was coming on but we did not really give to much of a look until we heard the booing. We shook our heads in bewilderment/disgust at the booing dished out to him (I will leave the debate on the why and right and wrongs to others) as we made our way past other fans. The guy behind us who my mate had a disagreement with earlier leapt to his feet shouting that you (multiple swear words) Huns are no (swear word) welcome here. This brought our leaving to the attention of other fans as we made our way up the steps to the exit.

We made our way up the steps with abuse ringing in our ears and many spitting towards us. Now I am big enough and ugly enough to look after myself but I also had my 4 year old son with me.

After making it into the concourse behind the stand I had to wipe the phlegm from my sons hair, face and coat. I too had a fair amount on my coat. My son was very quiet on the way home and to be honest slightly shocked by the whole episode and when putting him to bed he told me he didn’t want to go back there again.

I have been a member of the Supporters Association and its previous incarnation, the travel club since 1992 but I can’t see myself returning any time soon. Does it really matter about which club you support? One of us as stated is not even a Rangers fan At the end of the day we are all there to support Scotland.

The Tartan Army Spokesman Hamish Husband (Yes that’s a real name) has been silent today when he should really be speaking out. This man was quick to speak out when a Scottish/Rangers player wished to play in the Olympics stating that the Tartan Army would turn against anyone who did so. Silly comments like this can go a long way to cause the nutter element to take things into their own hands.

PS There were one a few fans decrying the actions of many. I wish I could go back and thank them but I just wanted out of there. One old gent in particular who got to his feet and challenged the idiots deserves a mention. He could barely stand without his stick and looked so frail but he was certainly prepared to defend us.

Disgraceful, utterly disgraceful.I feel for you, but more your lad, that must have been terrible.

I was there last night too, and had a feeling some of the worse elements of The TA were out in force.I was in The Hibs club before the match, and told a few boys who were singing Hibs songs to keep it quiet as there is no place for club songs at Scotland matches.

As for booing Black, a combo of it being at ER and the mongs who support Hibs being there, him deciding to be a mercenary and play for The Rangers and bevvy makes for a sorry situation.I'd never boo anyone who plays for Scotland.*

What stand were you in mate?I'm totally disgusted by this, can't get my head round it.

and btw, the guy who blamed the goalie for their goal, what a plumb...Banks & Shilton couldn't have kept it out!

*Levein made a mistake selecting him and bringing him on, he's a galoot of epic proportions and I hope he gets the bullet soon.

 

[Foxholer]

The OP should be sent to the SFU and Supporters Association (along with a resignation) in its entirety!

Obscene assault!

And if the Police could identify the culprit(s), they should be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law.

 

[Alan]

Sorry to hear this as a member of the tartan army it's terrible the whole Black situation came to that.
Avril was a **** picking Black after all this summers nonsense he doesn't have a clue about the total resentment in Scotland towards Rangers and their cheating.

Black should be nowhere near that team.

That aside I hope your kids ok.

 

[alnecosse]

Im reading this thread and cant figure out how if someone abuses and spits on another supporter it has something to do with Rangers
they were Scotland supporters and booing Black a guy who put on a Scotland strip to play for his country, its moronic and basically sums up modern day game.

 

[Dodger]

Im reading this thread and cant figure out how if someone abuses and spits on another supporter it has something to do with Rangers
they were Scotland supporters and booing Black a guy who put on a Scotland strip to play for his country, its moronic and basically sums up modern day game.

If you can't figure it out then I suggest you are out of touch with what has been going on on Scottish football.

It is something that disgusts me but also something that I can understand why it happened but as you rightly say it is moronic but that is football fans for you,some thankfully,not all.

 

[SwingsitlikeHogan]

Im reading this thread and cant figure out how if someone abuses and spits on another supporter it has something to do with Rangers
they were Scotland supporters and booing Black a guy who put on a Scotland strip to play for his country, its moronic and basically sums up modern day game.

Unfortunately I fear that this has everything to do with Rangers (IA). The attitude they have taken to the rest of Scottish football over and throughout this whole shambles (of their own making); and the vileness, vindictiveness and spite that not a small minority of their supporters seem now to be expressing towards the Scottish national team and indeed all other Scottish teams - particularly those they see being the 'ringleaders' in bringing about their downfall.

Despite this - the actions of these Scotland 'supporters' is reprehensible.

 

[thecraw]

I'd be devastated as a dad as its your one and only concern in life - looking after and defending your child. To subject you and your child to that sort of behavior is bang out of order. What did the police or stewards do?

While Levein is in charge I'll never follow Scotland again, this coming from a man who has worn his kilt with pride at Wembley, in Paris, Estonia (twice) and a humiliation in Wales. Clown and clueless manager

 

[SwingsitlikeHogan]

Levein and Doncaster - two peas from a clueless pod.

 

[AmandaJR]

That is shocking - truly shocking in any walk of life. I haven't much of a clue what's gone on and don't care to as surely in any civilised society such behaviour to another human being is totally abhorrent. Anyone who says they can understand it and the reasons for it is also beyond me. I hope your wee lad can soon forget what happened.

 

[Dodger]

That is shocking - truly shocking in any walk of life. I haven't much of a clue what's gone on and don't care to as surely in any civilised society such behaviour to another human being is totally abhorrent. Anyone who says they can understand it and the reasons for it is also beyond me. I hope your wee lad can soon forget what happened.

Can i ask why someone who understands why the incident happened is beyond you?

 

[Doon frae Troon]

I have not been back to a SFL match in 12 years due to similar behaviour form a couple of Hibs fans.
The difference being that they had a 6 to 8 year sitting between them. I took them to be father and grandfather.
A steward was sitting a few yards from them and did nothing.