Does anyone care?

I feel sorry for them and indeed most of the royals who are hounded day in day out

You would have thought the press would have learned a lesson after what happened to Diana but nope they continue to hound them - some of the stuff posted about Harry and his wife is disgusting and I applaud them for trying to find a peaceful life for them to raise their child.
 
Just had 6 week's holiday with zero press attention. Then they bring all this upon themselves, crazy. Harry and Meghan is still a bit new, they should know that at 37 and 40 married with a kid public interest would have faded really quickly. Almost like they can't live without attention as that allows them to moan about it just like Di. Cake and eat it.
No time for them. HM Chas and Wills can handle the official role, just end all the foreign tours and sickening sycophancy from royal reporters forced upon us.
 
Being a royal must be a pain in the arse if you’re not in line for the actual throne. Constant scrutiny and judgement.
He is a good royal though for me. Did his time at Sandhurst. Did his tours. A bit of a lad. Invictus games. Loves rugby. Enjoys a beer. What’s not to like?
I have absolutely no issue with the royal family. They are a huge plus for GB.
 
The Press: God that Meghan Markle is all wrong. She’s not English. She has no class. She’s the wrong colour as well. I wish she wasn’t a royal and that she’d p*ss off back to where she came from.

Harry and Meghan: We’ve decided we’re reducing our royal duties and moving to where Meghan came from.

The Press: ZOMG!!!!! HOW BLOODY DARE THEY DO THAT!!!!!!!!!!!
 
Isnt it odd that people who complain about the rich not being fleeced enough, numbers living in poverty, people using foodbanks and social inequality support these privilaged chinless spongers. Non so strange as folk.
 
Isnt it odd that people who complain about the rich not being fleeced enough, numbers living in poverty, people using foodbanks and social inequality support these privilaged chinless spongers. Non so strange as folk.

Yep they do absolutely zero and just take take take ?

It’s not like Harry did a couple of tours in a war zone fighting terrorists , or that his wife forged her own career working as an actress - nah just a pair of spongers doing nothing
 
Yep they do absolutely zero and just take take take ?

It’s not like Harry did a couple of tours in a war zone fighting terrorists , or that his wife forged her own career working as an actress - nah just a pair of spongers doing nothing
lots of people did tours in war zones but dont expect special privilege for it. I dont care what his wife did in her acting career, she was paid handsomely for it and that's enough reward. Anyhow, I'm not saying anything about what they have done I simply dont see them as people who deserve any support from me and any money spent on them would be put to better use supporting people in genuine need. Disagree if you will but give up on the sarcasm, its juvenile.
 
lots of people did tours in war zones but dont expect special privilege for it. I dont care what his wife did in her acting career, she was paid handsomely for it and that's enough reward. Anyhow, I'm not saying anything about what they have done I simply dont see them as people who deserve any support from me and any money spent on them would be put to better use supporting people in genuine need. Disagree if you will but give up on the sarcasm, its juvenile.

When have they even “expected special privileges” ?

Enough reward ? Have they asked or wanted anymore rewards ?

And I don’t believe they have ever asked for support from people like you ?

You called them spongers when they have both worked very hard.

There are many people in the UK that have money spent on them - many sit on their backsides doing nothing but take.
 
When have they even “expected special privileges” ?

Enough reward ? Have they asked or wanted anymore rewards ?

And I don’t believe they have ever asked for support from people like you ?

You called them spongers when they have both worked very hard.

There are many people in the UK that have money spent on them - many sit on their backsides doing nothing but take.
A honest genuine question for you Phil, do you really think that any of the Royals that served in the forces were treated exactly the same as their comrades, without any special protection, privileges or treatment ?
 
When have they even “expected special privileges” ?

Enough reward ? Have they asked or wanted anymore rewards ?

And I don’t believe they have ever asked for support from people like you ?

You called them spongers when they have both worked very hard.

There are many people in the UK that have money spent on them - many sit on their backsides doing nothing but take.
Two wrongs dont make a right. Harry has been born into a position of privilege, there can be no doubt about that. It is 'expected' by birth and I think thats an outdated privilege that should be left in the past, putting such people on a pedestal is IMO outdated and has no place in a modern society. OK theres the argument that Royalty earns a lot of money for the economy but again I dont buy it, just look at France they get just as many tourists without a Royal Family. I have to say I dont agree that they work hard, I just dont get that.

Look! You are entitled to your opinions regarding the Royal family, I have mine and they are obviously never going to agree. You can jump back in and try time and time again to point out where you think Im wrong but I make it very clear I have considered this long and hard and am not going to change my opinion and it looks like you wont change yours.
 
If is what they feel is best then good luck, they don't need approval from the likes of me.
The "Sussex" brand will generate considerable money, paying staff wages and tax somewhere. At least they will be creating wealth not just taking.
Their tax plans will be a fair old challenge for USA and UK ??
 
If is what they feel is best then good luck, they don't need approval from the likes of me.
The "Sussex" brand will generate considerable money, paying staff wages and tax somewhere. At least they will be creating wealth not just taking.
Their tax plans will be a fair old challenge for USA and UK ??
They will also when doing their backward and forwarding across the ocean be needing Police protection at the expense of the taxpayer.
 
Yep they do absolutely zero and just take take take ?

It’s not like Harry did a couple of tours in a war zone fighting terrorists , or that his wife forged her own career working as an actress - nah just a pair of spongers doing nothing

Harry will give you. Hats off to the bloke. Seems down to earth. Hard working

However Megan hard working? Forged her own career? Married an actor and producer .. suddenly boom an actress

Married a royal ...

Only thing she's worked hard is her vowel writing
 
A honest genuine question for you Phil, do you really think that any of the Royals that served in the forces were treated exactly the same as their comrades, without any special protection, privileges or treatment ?
Knowing people that worked with him and briefly seeing him in Afghan then that’s exactly what happened - he was treated the same as others - until our gutter press leaked it
 
Do I care. No, not really, provided there's no continued expense to the public purse.

But ... I don't especially get why they are doing it? They are, to coin a phrase, stepping back from being senior Royals so they can be less in the limelight and avoid the intrusion & scrutiny from the gutter press that goes with it. Yeah, right. Good look with that one.
 
I thought I didn't care, I hadn't even read beyond any headline to this story in the last couple of days till this thread prompted me to look at what's happened...

I’m not sure I understand what the fuss is about

The couple appear to want to change their roles/what they do in life, gain some independence etc, in-part so they can better control what's reported in the press about them (surely even as part of the extended royal family they are not bound/tied/forced to carry out certain functions for life against their will!)
They have a problem (rightly or wrongly) with how the press & media sometimes treat them. Given their backgrounds both can’t really be blamed for that negative view, even if they are overreacting
Its obviously not a spur of the moment but they’ve pretty much kept it all under wraps until they got back from Hols and told the queen & plans to discuss & thrash out the details etc were put in place before anything’s announced

Except now within days of revealing their plans to the queen the story is leaked to the very Press the couple despise (to me it stands to reason it’s a royal household/insider who leaked it, with or without instruction)
The couple are well pee’d off and decide they’ll announce it themselves before its leaked given they tried to do the correct protocol but clearly can’t trust anything to remain private even in royal household, making it look like the queen is gobsmacked & wasn’t informed about anything etc when she really was
The Press go nuts cos they’ve been slagged off a bit & go full-on ballistic against them. The Palace reportedly say (in the press) it’s a declaration of war on the royal family! The couple have ‘exiled themselves’ etc etc and more ridiculous hyperbole like that (making their initial decision to step back now seem a very sound and shrewd one)
Just today its reported Meghan is ‘fleeing’ the country. Can you believe that has actually been printed, fleeing the country! Honestly it beggars belief

As I see it it’s not really their fault they had to rush the announcement, the ‘Palace’ couldn’t keep its gob shut for 5 minutes and the press do what the press do

But back to the start & the actual announcement/intent to step back. I don’t get the fuss. Even as a member of royalty if you don’t want to do a certain role or spend time with certain family members (i.e having a very dodgy uncle pop round for xmas) for the rest of their life who can force them to? It is a free country (that he fought for) you can resign/leave/divorce yourself from any family or role. It’s just the details of the split that need sorted.

Lets face it neither of their families can be held up as examples of what makes a family unit work successfully, so why not try their own way. Maybe not everyone agrees with your plan but its hardly big news that a couple of minor royals (in terms of ascendancy) with senior titles, want to step back. Seems the only ones likely to miss out to any notable extant is the Press
 
90% of the time I don't care but I do when it involves tax payers money, money could go to better use elsewhere. I had a 400 mile round trip yesterday and heard a good deal about this on the radio. The general opinion is you can bea senior person in the royal family or not, you can't be a little bit in. The idea that they can spend 6 months of the year in America / Canada 'working towards financial autonomy' is not compatable with spending the remaining 6 months in the UK on Royal duties. If they want to go to Canada, by all means but accept that you become a Zara Philips (no criticism of her at all) and lose some of the priveleges that you had previously. If you want to keep the trappings then accept what goes with the job, perhaps look at someone like Anne and learn how to do it whilst keeping your head down.

They strike me at the moment as being a bit like the Beckhams at their peak. They are complaining about the press but then do things that put them absolutely at the forefront of the news.
 
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