Does anyone care?

Tell you what, I am impressed that a bunch of elderly golfers who struggled to recognize any of the top cultural events of 2019 I posted recently containing such obscure references as the Chernobyl TV series, Simon Mayo and Richard Osman, have such an in depth knowledge of Megan Markle's ulterior motives, modus operandi, social circles and ambitions. I can only assume there must be a lot of Megan Markle coverage in the Daily Torygraph......
 
It is obvious that Meghan seems to be treated significantly differently than, say Kate. Why? I honestly can't think of anything that she has done that warrants abuse, albeit I don't follow the Royal stories generally?

Yes, I think the "race card" can be played too easily at times and is wrong, just like the other cards that can be used "sexuality, gender, etc). I do agree that political correctness has gone mad at times, and is probably shooting itself in the foot as it frustrates more and more people. However, that doesn't been that if it has been used unfairly in one situation, you can simply ignore any argument by blaming "the race card" as if it is insignificant.

I have no doubt that the mainstream journalists are not racist in the context you'd consider a member from the KKK or white nationalist. However, doesn't mean they are not more casually racist and it may be more in the subconscious. Most of the newspaper articles shown here where from papers that have a fairly strong history of being considered "racist", so really comes as no surprise. Of course, there could be other / different factors, such as the fact she is not British. She's also not going to be (or unlikely to be) future Queen, so maybe some in the press simply see her as more of an open target to sell their papers with a lesser chance of angering the public? I suppose they may come up with an agenda on all celebrities, and then continually try and push it to build up some sort of themes that get people coming back for more.

Either way, the tabloids are a joke. Time and time again, they are proved to be telling blatant lies, or they simply talk rubbish about something that really shouldn't matter (like what someone is wearing or if they are touching their bump). I'd say good on them. They'll never get a life of total privacy, but better to try and do something away from the constant duties and required when you just so happened to be born into or marry into the Royal Family.
 
pauldj42 said:
Not anymore! But then cast doubt on her motives and whether he’s a lapdog who may end up divorced!

What a sad world we live in! I’m sure we have people with posts already drafted saying “I told you so” ready to gloat.

Good luck to them both and hope they have a long and happy life together with their kid(s).
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This thread is nowt but opinions and I shared mine. Nothing more nothing less. You have yours - You don't need my sanction and I don't need yours so give up on the put-down inferences.
 
drdel said:
This thread is nowt but opinions and I shared mine. Nothing more nothing less. You have yours - You don't need my sanction and I don't need yours so give up on the put-down inferences.
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It’s a forum, don’t want replies, don’t post, simple really.
 
AmandaJR said:
Fair point. I've generally been anti how the press have built up a supposed rift between the wives and therefore brothers BUT have to wonder if for once there is something in that with this latest decision. So much of my anti (if it is that) Meghan comes from the decision to part ways charity-wise for the brothers and now this. Just something not quite right for me.
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But I 'parted-ways' with my brother when I moved from Glasgow to Bristol and he moved from Glasgow to Aberdeen. We didn't fall out in any way - we just set out on separate paths that led to girlfriends, marriage and children - and in truth we didn't communicate that much for 20yrs...My parents weren't bothered as they knew that we were just getting on with things 500 miles apart. And we only really got back together from time-to-time when our father died...no big deal.

Harry and Will may well have had joint charitable passion when younger (I'm guessing Will's choice) - but as they grew up they developed interests in different areas. And tough on Harry - William is the top dog - age wise and in everything in life and always will be unless Harry branches out a ploughs his own furrow.
 
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pauldj42 said:
I doubt any of us will ever know the truth about what’s going on or the influence she does or does not hold, but I do believe the media has played a role in this circus and certainly hasn’t remained neutral.

There won’t be a married man on this forum who hasn’t been influenced in to uncomfortable decisions by his wife and vice versa and why we’d expect their relationship to be any different is beyond me.
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My Dad always reckoned that it was Mrs Hogie who had us getting married - and he was right. She told me we were going to get engaged; when we were going to get engaged (14/02/91 - her choice of date :) )- and where we were going for that to happen - my choice was - erm...limited to agreeing - willingly of course...
 
So many angry people, angry about everything...
Why can't people just get on with their lives and have some fun instead of ranting all day about anything and everything.
We're not here for a long time.......
 
AmandaJR said:
For me, an with no racist/sexist agenda, Kate is by far the more likeable. The bump cuddling images are very different. Kate resting a hand on top and just one occasion - Meghan actually cradling with both hands with a look to camera. Personally the bump stroking does my head in anyhow.

Anyway, Kate has never come across as anything but a damned nice person who gets on with her life as a Royal, accepting the rough with the smooth. Meghan appears to be doing anything but.
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I think there is acceptance of one type of woman vs another. Meghan is focused savvy knows what she wants - characteristics that are very acceptable in men but still not quite acceptable in women.
In this world of women’s rights men are going to have to accept it, embrace it. It means women can commit as awful offences like men, it means your female boss can be a bully and it means women can open doors for men, this is the changing world we live in and gender should not be part of the judgement for behaviour. It should be about the person and in this case Meghan has not been judged solely on her personality but her gender by old white men who cannot keep up or have an agenda.
 
So many of us complain about the cost of the Royalty and call for a slimming down. But when the first steps towards that are made we hear so much complaining. Is this not something to be grateful for - the first step along the way. Surely no-one would never expect a slimming down to happen in one great leap - it would be a process. And as this is a first step towards 'anonymising' or 'de-celebritising' the peripheral royals we accept that there is a transition to be gone through for the Royal Family; that that transition will include accepting the need to maintain security for those detaching - until the day that the peripherals are no longer celebrity or news worthy - and at that point security needs will have shrunk or indeed for some will have disappeared.

Thanks to Harry and Meghan for making this first step - a step that was needed - and all good things for the future.
 
In terms of actual money, how much does supporting the royals cost the average UK taxpayer?
It's probably not that much.

I'll support royals in exchange for a National Health Service and UK level university tuition any day.
We waste the money on unnecessary military spending. More than the next ten or twenty nations combined.
 
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