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Dehydration- The back nine killer

Snelly thats a bit of a sweeping generalisation, as I believe that water and food can help and i'm closer to 40 than 30. I however don't think that it will make me hit the ball better, but will help me concentrate later in the round rather than become lethargic. I think this was the OP's original point. I would also state that I spent around 2 hours last night practicing my short game and putting as these are the things that will make a real difference.
 
Sincerely held beliefs + attempts to extrapolate personal experience to larger population of completely different physical/mental/proficiency/age characteristics + infinite availability of dodgy stats on the net + bad science

= completely pointless thread with lots of people virtually shouting at each other.

fwiw (which is nothing, see above) I'm with the snellster...
 
Snelly said:
This thread is full of some of the most stupendous, ill informed, overstated, utter garbage that I have ever read on this forum. And that is quite something when you consider the competition.

You don't need food and drink to complete around of golf - FACT.
You don't hit bad shots (on the back 9 or anywhere else) because you are a bit thirsty.
You don't make a bad decision on club selection because you didn't eat enough raisins after the 13th hole.


I am guessing but I bet every one of the contributors on this thread that thinks rehydration is a factor in golfing prowess or decision making, is under the age of 30. Weaned on a Sky Super Sunday endorsed campaign of misinformation that Lucozade improves performance and that the right diet and hydration level matter. They don't. You are playing pretty average amateur golf. Sports drinks, drinking loads of water, nut bars or anything else for that matter, bear no influence on your game.

It is the same as your new shiny wedge really. You can't play the game as well as you would like and can't put in the hard work to improve so you think a new club, set of shoes, frictionless tee or WATER will make a bit of difference to compensate. It will not. Nothing you can buy will make you better, only practice and play will. You play bad shots on the back 9 because you are not good enough to play good ones the whole way round. End of. Water is nothing to do with it.

In 1862, Old Tom Morris won the Open Championship by 14 strokes. I am prepared to bet my mortgage that he managed this without an energy bar, a can of Red Bull, a banana or six pints of water half way round.
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I generally carry a bottle of water and have a couple of snack bars in my bag. To be used if I am thirsty and/or hungry. If I'm not then I don't have them.
I know that if I do get a little hungry on the way round I'd rather have a snack than not, make of that what you will. Whether it affects my performance? I suspect maybe a little, but only if I'm proper hungry.
I reckon carrying uses a fair few more calories than a gentle stroll in the country. Using a leccy trolley, not so much.
 
Stuey01 said:
I generally carry a bottle of water and have a couple of snack bars in my bag. To be used if I am thirsty and/or hungry. If I'm not then I don't have them.
I know that if I do get a little hungry on the way round I'd rather have a snack than not, make of that what you will. Whether it affects my performance? I suspect maybe a little, but only if I'm proper hungry.
I reckon carrying uses a fair few more calories than a gentle stroll in the country. Using a leccy trolley, not so much.
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Love this thinking, so radical, so scientifically thought through and so.........................normal:whistle::whoo:
 
Will it make a difference? I personally think maybe marginally and probably more than the new ££££££ TM "shineys" will.
 
Help . - . on 17th at Wokefield Park . - . feeling weak . - . forgot isotonic drink .- . can't go on . - . dont think I'm going to make it home . . .
 
I drink water because i am thirsty. I do the same at work....i am probably more thirsty when i'm playing golf but don't think it necessarily has an impact on performance.

I routinely struggle at the start and improve.....
 
Our club fiddle follow the basic rule odd holes are fag holes even holes are whisky holes. I'm yet to see anyone littering the 18th fairway...well due to dehydration anyway.
 
Snelly said:
This thread is full of some of the most stupendous, ill informed, overstated, utter garbage that I have ever read on this forum. And that is quite something when you consider the competition.

You don't need food and drink to complete around of golf - FACT.
You don't hit bad shots (on the back 9 or anywhere else) because you are a bit thirsty.
You don't make a bad decision on club selection because you didn't eat enough raisins after the 13th hole.


I am guessing but I bet every one of the contributors on this thread that thinks rehydration is a factor in golfing prowess or decision making, is under the age of 30. Weaned on a Sky Super Sunday endorsed campaign of misinformation that Lucozade improves performance and that the right diet and hydration level matter. They don't. You are playing pretty average amateur golf. Sports drinks, drinking loads of water, nut bars or anything else for that matter, bear no influence on your game.

It is the same as your new shiny wedge really. You can't play the game as well as you would like and can't put in the hard work to improve so you think a new club, set of shoes, frictionless tee or WATER will make a bit of difference to compensate. It will not. Nothing you can buy will make you better, only practice and play will. You play bad shots on the back 9 because you are not good enough to play good ones the whole way round. End of. Water is nothing to do with it.

In 1862, Old Tom Morris won the Open Championship by 14 strokes. I am prepared to bet my mortgage that he managed this without an energy bar, a can of Red Bull, a banana or six pints of water half way round.
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Think some oe needs to get laid :whistle:
 
Snelly said:
This thread is full of some of the most stupendous, ill informed, overstated, utter garbage that I have ever read on this forum. And that is quite something when you consider the competition.

You don't need food and drink to complete around of golf - FACT.
You don't hit bad shots (on the back 9 or anywhere else) because you are a bit thirsty.
You don't make a bad decision on club selection because you didn't eat enough raisins after the 13th hole.


I am guessing but I bet every one of the contributors on this thread that thinks rehydration is a factor in golfing prowess or decision making, is under the age of 30. Weaned on a Sky Super Sunday endorsed campaign of misinformation that Lucozade improves performance and that the right diet and hydration level matter. They don't. You are playing pretty average amateur golf. Sports drinks, drinking loads of water, nut bars or anything else for that matter, bear no influence on your game.

It is the same as your new shiny wedge really. You can't play the game as well as you would like and can't put in the hard work to improve so you think a new club, set of shoes, frictionless tee or WATER will make a bit of difference to compensate. It will not. Nothing you can buy will make you better, only practice and play will. You play bad shots on the back 9 because you are not good enough to play good ones the whole way round. End of. Water is nothing to do with it.

In 1862, Old Tom Morris won the Open Championship by 14 strokes. I am prepared to bet my mortgage that he managed this without an energy bar, a can of Red Bull, a banana or six pints of water half way round.
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No Old Tom probably had a bowl of porridge (oats = slow release energy), a pot of tea (= water with some fermented leaves), maybe some milk on his porridge and in his tea (= basically water with some fat), a wee bit of sugar or salt on his porridge (isotonic)m maybe some eggs (protein) so he was more than likely set up for the day.

Typical signs of early dehydration are tingly lips, mild headache, dark pee and of course feeling thirsty.

The more you sweat the more you need to drink and you lose a lot just through breathing

Sports Drinks are effective when you are at your limits and probably offer no benefit over water to the average human and I very much doubt whilst playing a round of golf.

I always have a sports bottle with water and a bit of diluting orange with me for the odd sip and sometimes a banana or slice of malt loaf in case I feel peckish
 
Just as an aside, it's now a train of thought that milk will rehydrate you quicker than water or isotonic drinks, many athletes use that now apparently
 
hovis said:
Is this really a thread. Its a four hour round in 15 degree heat. The guys in afghan would fall out their chairs reading this. Drink when your thirsty plane and simple. thirst is a delayed reflex is rubbish. The foreign legion have simple approach. Drink when your thirsty and eat when you are hungry
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Spot on, dehydration is used to hype sports drinks, general fitness and concentration are just as important.
 
I have been drinking coconut water. It is suppose to replace electrolytes and to be honest I only started as I got some free testers. Does it help. Probably not but it is a tasty alternative to the more sugary sports drinks. I'm diabetic and so need to steer away from anything too sugary anyway.

I'm with Snelly to a large degree. THe reason I hit bad shots is because I'm not a great golfer even if the brain and heart things otherwise. I put a bad swing on the shot or fail to execute. Not because I was too dehydrated or hungry. Yes, if we get a proper summer then it makes sense to drink more but I'd do that even if I was just at work. I don't feel the need to drink so much when it is freezing cold and puring with rain. Rain or shine I can still shank, slice, hook or top with or without being fully hydrated
 
Another musing on the subject.

When at work or at home apart from being asleep how often do you go without having a drink of any kind, not 4 hours i'd warrant, know I don't.

So why go four hours without one just because you're on the golf course? Now not suggesting you lug round your own kettle and coffee makers for quick flat white or latte after 9 holes but if you fancy a wee sip of water etc etc why not?
 
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