Dehydration- The back nine killer

[hovis]

Special ops? Not sure that and golf are comparable my man.

This is the point im trying to make. If it isn't important to them then you can bet your behind it doesnt matter to a golfer

 

[hovis]

the beginning of dehydration has set in when your brain is telling you that you need water. There have been many studies which prove that decisions are less than perfect are judgement can be clouded and focus lessened when even slightly dehydrated, also the same studies say that drinking regularly prevents this happening

what studies? where are you quoting from? the colgan institute was fined for publishing such statements and their chief dierector was fired! he also has a financial intrest in ''gatorade'' (funny that). the foregn legion spent alot of time on this and proved beyond resonable doubt that drinking to stop thirst onset was overkill and a waste off water. their troops went through hell in the destert being used as puppets for this research. which proved that their relflexes, shooting average and fitness was not effected by low levels of dehydration. they even had them playing chess. drink only when thirsty is being tought in the legion today

 

[Ian_S]

I would have thought blood sugar rather than hydration was the main cause of fatigue. So long as you've had plenty to drink before the round you're probably sufficiently hydrated for the few hours you're out.

However that is based on a guess of what my body feels like. I'm more than happy to be swayed by scientific studies.

 

[Andy808]

I have had this explained to me several times and now I have a drink at every tee the same as getting out a club or picking a different tee from my pocket. I carry at least 2 litres of water and on hot or sticky days I will carry up to 4 litres, drinking most, if not all, during a round.
Does it help?
I know it helps me feel better at the end of the round if I have had plenty to drink.

 

[hovis]

I have had this explained to me several times and now I have a drink at every tee the same as getting out a club or picking a different tee from my pocket. I carry at least 2 litres of water and on hot or sticky days I will carry up to 4 litres, drinking most, if not all, during a round.
Does it help?
I know it helps me feel better at the end of the round if I have had plenty to drink.[/QUOTE


4 litres! I really hope you dont carry

 

[Andy808]

4 litres! I really hope you dont carry

I sweat quiet a bit and no I don't carry!!!

 

[tyke]

I would have thought blood sugar rather than hydration was the main cause of fatigue. So long as you've had plenty to drink before the round you're probably sufficiently hydrated for the few hours you're out.

However that is based on a guess of what my body feels like. I'm more than happy to be swayed by scientific studies.

Correct answer, i've also been on plenty of special ops

 

[Andy808]

Correct answer, i've also been on plenty of special ops

So have I.
Oh hang on does Black ops count?

 

[bobmac]

So if you're walking for 4 hours with an electric trolley you drink lots of water
How much water do marathon runners drink in comparison ?

I would suggest that if a golfer is getting tired on the last few holes, it's their pie and chips intake that's the culprit, nothing to do with a lack of water

 

[StrangelyBrown]

I'll go through a few litres of water in 4 hours sat at my desk in my office.

It's certainly a generational issue. My Dad barely drinks any water at all. Ever... The most water he'll get through is the ice in his Bacardi and Coke.

 

[mjyounie]

I know to most people it doesn't seem important to be drinking or eating during a round of golf and to those who do, well done, you don't need to read on ..I am telling you if you drink a constant amount of water, e.g. after every hole drink a couple of mouthfuls, you will without doubt feel a lot better over the closing and make less mistakes. Its a proven fact! Has anyone ever watched Tiger for 18 holes? Or any top pro for that matter? Its all about planning ahead, Tiger normally eats a sandwich on about the 4/5th hole. This isn't because after 5 holes he is hungry! Its because there is obviously a delayed response from eating the food, it making its way through our digestive system and getting in the blood. Therefore Tiger eats a sandwich on the 5th hole so that by the time he gets to the 13th where his body would normally be running low because the effects of his last meal has now worn off his body is still in peak shape. His blood sugar and Glucose levels have been topped up meaning he can play the last six holes with the same energy as the first six. If you want to shave a couple of shots off your game without changing a single thing in your technique, drink a couple of sips of water or squash (stay away from drinks like coke as it not only dehydrates you but messes with blood sugar levels) and eat a sandwich or some fruit after the 5th hole and after the 10th.

 

[mjyounie]

Would the best advice just to drink more throughout your round, say at least a litre or maybe 2 if its warm. There are many drinks with electrolytes out there and also many brands that help. Pair this with some fruit and nuts etc in yourt round and hey presto, good to go.

I also feel for the majority of people improved consistency lies with ability rather than hydration.. DIscuss

You are spot on, a balance of fruit, nuts and water and your good to last the round...

Consistency has to be relevant to the level of golf you normally play, your handicap. So, if your a 10 handicap and you play the front 9 well but the back nine poorly this is not due to your ability to play. You have already played the front 9 well and have proved you can play the shots required to play good for your standard. Why wasn't you able to carry your form onto the back nine? Nutrition... You were still doing everything in which you felt you were on the front nine but all of a sudden the drives are going into the rough instead of the fairway.. Why is this? Well, when your bodies resources are depleted (glucose levels etc) your coordination is affected meaning it feels like you are swinging it the same but in reality your not. Your decision making is also affected meaning those silly mistakes creep their way in over the closing holes.

I fully believe that consistency relevant to your level is due to a lack of replenishing your bodies natural resources.

 

[tallpaul]

So if you're walking for 4 hours with an electric trolley you drink lots of water
How much water do marathon runners drink in comparison ?

500-1000ml per hour is recommended for distance running (depending on pace).

I've played golf with many people who haven't had a drop of fluid whilst playing a four hour round. Even if you were sat doing nothing for four hours you should drink about a pint of water to cover fluid lost to respiration, perspiration and excretion.

 

[MendieGK]

Hi Guys,

My uncle is a Dr in Nutrition and specialises in sports nutrition, so this is a conversation i have had with him a number of times. He has had a few articles published in todays Golfer.

The advice he has given me is to make my own Hypotonic sports drink as its cheaper than buying branded sports drinks (and yes they are more effective than water).

The ingredients i used for my drink are as follows - 250ml of unsweetened fruit juice, 750ml water and a small pinch of salt.

He also recommends having a can of red bull (or any of the caffeine containing drinks) approx half way round.

I can honestly say that since using this information, my concentration on the course and energy levels have dramatically imrpoved.

 

[HawkeyeMS]

Hi Guys,

My uncle is a Dr in Nutrition and specialises in sports nutrition, so this is a conversation i have had with him a number of times. He has had a few articles published in todays Golfer.

The advice he has given me is to make my own Hypotonic sports drink as its cheaper than buying branded sports drinks (and yes they are more effective than water).

The ingredients i used for my drink are as follows - 250ml of unsweetened fruit juice, 750ml water and a small pinch of salt.

He also recommends having a can of red bull (or any of the caffeine containing drinks) approx half way round.

I can honestly say that since using this information, my concentration on the course and energy levels have dramatically imrpoved.

I can honestly say that lack of concentration or fatigue have NEVER been an issue for me playing 18 holes of golf. I drink water on the way round, but then I drink water all the time so if I didn't while playing golf I'd miss it. All these isotonic\caffeinated energy drinks are, in my opinion, simply not required to play golf.

The biggest back nine killer is the mind.

 

[MendieGK]

I can honestly say that lack of concentration or fatigue have NEVER been an issue for me playing 18 holes of golf. I drink water on the way round, but then I drink water all the time so if I didn't while playing golf I'd miss it. All these isotonic\caffeinated energy drinks are, in my opinion, simply not required to play golf.

The biggest back nine killer is the mind.

Without trying to sound rude, speak to any top level amateur I can assure you they will disagree. Dhdration hinders the mind? Try it, it might be stopping you being lower than 10?

pro use energy gels whilst playing as well as things like peanut butter sandwiches (high in protein and carbs). All are linked

 

[HawkeyeMS]

Without trying to sound rude, speak to any top level amateur I can assure you they will disagree. Dhdration hinders the mind? Try it, it might be stopping you being lower than 10?

pro use energy gels whilst playing as well as things like peanut butter sandwiches (high in protein and carbs). All are linked

So what you're saying is if I started drinking isotonic drinks and eating high carb food while playing golf my handicap will drop? :rofl:

It's got more to do with the fact my short game isn't good enough and I 3 putt too much. I also tend to play the back nine better than the front, maybe I have too much energy at the start of a round?

 

[MendieGK]

So what you're saying is if I started drinking isotonic drinks and eating high carb food while playing golf my handicap will drop? :rofl:

It's got more to do with the fact my short game isn't good enough and I 3 putt too much. I also tend to play the back nine better than the front, maybe I have too much energy at the start of a round?

All i am saying is that you are basically disagreeing with scientific evidence (Exactly the reason the post was started). I am very much in the camp of, if the pro's do it, they do it for a reason!

Like people who put with there glove on?! I am pretty sure if it was at beneficial, you would see tour players doing it.

Bottom line is, Pro dont generally just drink water, they drink water with energy tablets or a form of, and they eat at regular intervals. Its their jobs, so they look for every edge.

with regards to playing better back nine, its probably the same as most people (including me), the round has got away from you by the time the back 9 starts, so you relax more and just get on with it.

 

[HawkeyeMS]

All i am saying is that you are basically disagreeing with scientific evidence (Exactly the reason the post was started). I am very much in the camp of, if the pro's do it, they do it for a reason!

Like people who put with there glove on?! I am pretty sure if it was at beneficial, you would see tour players doing it.

Bottom line is, Pro dont generally just drink water, they drink water with energy tablets or a form of, and they eat at regular intervals. Its their jobs, so they look for every edge.

with regards to playing better back nine, its probably the same as most people (including me), the round has got away from you by the time the back 9 starts, so you relax more and just get on with it.

Don't forget the pro's are doing stuff pretty much every day either hitting balls, working out in the gym etc. They aren't just playing a couple of rounds a week. Their day to day life isn't the same as most of ours. I'm not saying it doesn't provide a benefit, I'm just skeptical that it provides much benefit to the average golfer, who in many or most cases isn't particularly fit. Lets face it, if you get tired walking 18 holes of golf, a bottle of lucozade and a peanut butter sandwich isn't going to make much difference to you.

 

[User20205]

All i am saying is that you are basically disagreeing with scientific evidence (Exactly the reason the post was started). I am very much in the camp of, if the pro's do it, they do it for a reason!

Like people who put with there glove on?! I am pretty sure if it was at beneficial, you would see tour players doing it.

Bottom line is, Pro dont generally just drink water, they drink water with energy tablets or a form of, and they eat at regular intervals. Its their jobs, so they look for every edge.

with regards to playing better back nine, its probably the same as most people (including me), the round has got away from you by the time the back 9 starts, so you relax more and just get on with it.

the pro's do loads of things that don't apply to my golf! on tour typically their rounds are approx 1.5 hours longer than mine. They also have psychologists whose effectiveness is debatable, and some wear daft magnetic braclets to 'aid' performance. They are basically a bunch of sheep who will do anything to get a competitve edge.

If I remember I'll buy a bottle of water, more often than not, unless it's really warm, it remains half finshed.

Drinking/eating bears no relation to a club golfers performance unless there is an underlying medical condition. If you can't go a max of 4 hours with out the need to eat/drink then maybe you should seek medical help.

There is nothing wrong with eating/drinking on the course but please don't make out it's essential for good performance.