Cricketers Jailed

[HomerJSimpson]

Didn't Bruce Grobellar get done for match fixing?

It is fraud, so carries a jail sentence. They must have known this before participating, so I have no sympathy.

Yep Grobellar and Hans Segers (ex Wimbledon keeper) got done. Think they got fined but definitely convicted. I agree with Murph, it is a fraudulent act and so you take the risk and have to be prepared to face the consequences if you get caught.

I think on the subject of sportsmen being caught cheating it should be a ban. Chambers is a good example but isn't there a Bristish woman athlete who got caught and came back last year admist publicity against it. Same with any sport, if you are caught out then I'm afraid it should be a lifetime ban. Kieron Fallon (and before him Piggott) should have never been allowed to ride again. The list goes on but until these people are seen to have lost their means of making money how does a short jail sentence, a fine (they are loaded anyway) and a few years away really get the message across

 

[sev112]

It was picked up by the commentators because of the massive no ball ...if they had got closer to the line it would have gone unquestioned by every one and could have gone on througout the series.

I think there must have been more to it than that. It is common practise for fast, and even medium paced blowers to bowl the occasional ball at least half a yerd + over the no ball line and put it in short. Because it comes from an, albeit apparently small, but actually signifincatly different release point, the bouncer will quite often really surprise and shock the batsman. As a bowler you dont mind that you haev given one run away, what you have done is shaken the batsman's confidence. And when you are a seriously fast blower it is a VERY good tool in your armoury.


P.S. Thanks whoever it was for letting me know the actual charge.
So , as it was conspiracy to defraud, then this has only a little to do with cricket per se - the cheating issue is then very different from just helping some gamblers make/lose money.


I am on a very dodgy wicket )) here but i have always doubted snooker, possibly darts, boxing - basically a variety of sports that historically i have seen many many amazing comebacks

 

[Scouser]

. It is common practise for fast, and even medium paced blowers to bowl the occasional ball at least half a yerd + over the no ball line and put it in short. Because it comes from an, albeit apparently small, but actually signifincatly different release point,

I have to disagree with that comment it is not common for a bowler to deliberately bowl a no ball (unless cheating) The ideal bouncer is aimed at the heart area looking for the batsman to fend it off with bat or glove with result being the ball "dollying" up in the air for a catch.... A catch is not possible from a no ball.

If a bowler deliberately oversteped the line to bowl a bouncer this could be deemed intimidatery bowling and punished under the laws although it never would be!

 

[Scouser]

Oh and the release point has nothing to do with bowling from a closer point....IMO

 

[sev112]

It is not intended to get a catch - it's a noc ball. It is intended to shake the batsman's cpncentration , and it is not obviously designed to hurt the batsman - that's why even medium paced bowlers use it occasionally - it is a mental tactic.

And the release point is certainly noticeably different - it is no different to a blower bowling the ball from 1 pace SHORTER than the crease - it is all about not alklowing the batsman to get used to seeing and predicting the path of the ball.

 

[Scouser]

, and it is not obviously designed to hurt the batsman - that's why even medium paced bowlers use it occasionally - it is a mental tactic.

And the release point is certainly noticeably different - it is no different to a blower bowling the ball from 1 pace SHORTER than the crease -

I know this is off topic but I have to disagree again....You say its not the intention to hurt... Any bolwer intentionally bowling a bouncer off a half yard no bowl is doing it for only one reason in my mind and that is because they have seen the red mist or are a complete and utter k^ob and or out to cause as much damage as possible. You can have the same effect bowling a legal no ball.

As for the release I thought you meant the position of the delivery arm if you are talking in relation to the popping crease a half yard in front is totally different to a half yard further back for one the latter is complety legal.... unless the umpire calls a no ball as he can not be sure if the back foot broke the return crease. And secondly the latter is not intended to hurt and as you state it is not to alter the length of the ball it is a version of a slower ball that allows exactly the same bowling action and speed to be used so that the batsman has a split second to play the shot but does not adjust in time as he has seen the bowlers regular action at full speed.