Course ban on Adidas Adizero shoes....

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Looks like they've changed the cleats on the new version...


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That's the new type stud I fitted to my Adizero tours , but I've not had a chance to check if they make any difference .
 

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Wore my new pair of Tours this morning for my first knock of 2014.

Have to say these things are supremely comfortable and supple.

Normally it takes me 5 or so rounds to break shoes in, but not these.

No damage to the greens either, even with ice stuck to the bottom of them. Will see what happens on clay based mushy greens.
 

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might is the key word!

Facts? what facts? 1 or 2 courses have banned them? what about the hundreds of courses that havent, and the golfers that don't see any issues with them? these are also facts.

The 'eveidence' so far appears to be some indentations caused by ice build up on the soles, something that happens with pretty much every golf shoe:rolleyes:

Well I saw it first hand today.

One of the lads in my 4-ball where we played today at Brampton Heath in a winter series open had the Adizero Tours on and they left huge indentations on the green. I had my AQL's on with Pro Stingers in and they left little or no marks, No2 had on Ecco Bioms and left no marks, No3 had on some FJ's of sorts and left no marks, but, the lad who had the Adizero Tours on, and is no heavier than me, in fact considerably lighter, the marks and indentations were excessive and still well in attendance as we left the greens!

Its a heathland course, no ice or frost today, the greens were excellent and scary fast.

There is definitely something in this!
 

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Why ? Don't their new shoes feature the same type of sole design as the Adizero's ?

Just seen an 'underside' view of FJ DNA on another forum. They certainly seem to have a similar, though maybe not so pronounced, design that would appear to place the same sort of loading of the player's weight on the studs and their support - rather than spreading it across the entire sole.
 

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There is a little bit in golf world (page 90) this month about them and says the new "lower profile stealth cleats are ,ore green keeper friendly".

Seems it was something that was known about and been addressed (or attempted to) with the new version.
 

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I love my adizeros, I am able to walk in my first round with them (usually) however ever since my first, I do notice they leave a deeper impression vs the other brands that I have. Don't usually notice damage to the greens as it does spring back.
 
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Playing today at Menzies and one of my FC was leaving big marks from his spikes in his heels - FJ Dryjoys - again my Adizeros left the same size marks as other FC bar this one persons heels
 

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I posted earlier that I had changed the spikes/cleats on only one shoe as a experiment to see if the spikes/cleats were to blame. Results- the unchanged spikes left less of a indentation than the replacements on our very soft greens, but still looked a deeper than normal indentation.
But after putting out we stood discussing the indentations [the course was empty not holding anyone up] after roughly 10 mins we checked the green again, and the first indentations that had been made were almost gone.
So any damage is short lived less than coring, hollow tining or spiking.
After we finished our round we spoke to our h/g keeper about the marks he said " they will return to normal in a short time."
 

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I posted earlier that I had changed the spikes/cleats on only one shoe as a experiment to see if the spikes/cleats were to blame. Results- the unchanged spikes left less of a indentation than the replacements on our very soft greens, but still looked a deeper than normal indentation.
But after putting out we stood discussing the indentations [the course was empty not holding anyone up] after roughly 10 mins we checked the green again, and the first indentations that had been made were almost gone.
So any damage is short lived less than coring, hollow tining or spiking.
After we finished our round we spoke to our h/g keeper about the marks he said " they will return to normal in a short time."
I bought a pair of these for the winter as they are marketed as waterproof golf shoes. I must admit from the very first time I wore them I was aware they left very large indents in the greens. My course uses the turf irons for the comps during winter and I noticed the marks are not as bad on firmer greens but they are still there and take longer to fade the firmer the green is. I think these shoes have been made and tested for American conditions as the sole is very thin and the cleat housing is pronounced plus the cleat is very long. If Adidas Have not tested them on greens in the winter in the UK then that is a very poor testing programme. The new shoes for 2014 look the same except they have one more cleat under the arch of the foot = seven cleats. I think this is half the problem as my FJ Icons have nine on each foot and the load is more spread out over the shoe. The indents on the greens do look bad as the sun is low in the winter. my playing partner has bought a pair and when we have finished on the greens we look back and say " I would not like to be playing behind us today " These shoes are not cheap and some golfers can't afford to have multiple pairs The big problem would be when these shoes were allowed and when not who makes the decision and how do you inform the members. If they are deemed fit for use only in summer the legal position will be very tricky as I am sure Adidas will challenge it so by the time the court case is run you will need new shoes anyway. there is no dought in my mind this is a design flaw and will need to be addressed so will it affect sales this is the one thing that may force Adidas to do something about it
 

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Played Tuesday with a buddy your guys will like this,

Buddy, wearing tours, approx 11 stone - massive imprints left
Me, wearing 6spike , approx 16 stone, next no no imprints,

It's definitely the tours that are causing issues.
 

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Played Tuesday with a buddy your guys will like this,

Buddy, wearing tours, approx 11 stone - massive imprints left
Me, wearing 6spike , approx 16 stone, next no no imprints,

It's definitely the tours that are causing issues.

I've received my 6 spike today and weigh mid way between you two, will I make a mark or not?
 
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