Course ban on Adidas Adizero shoes....

[ColchesterFC]

I don't understand why some forummers are so reluctant to accept that there might be a problem with this style of shoe. Despite at least one course banning them and more than one person on here replying that they have seen first hand that the Adizero (and I would assume other shoes with a similar sole design) have been causing damage. There seems to be a bit of a General Melchett from Blackadder moment going on - "If nothing else works, a total pig-headed unwillingness to look facts in the face will see us through". How much evidence do some people need before they will accept that there might be an issue with the design?

 

[BTatHome]

Probably the fact that people have seen other shoes doing the same 'damage' and also some people not seeing any damage at all when they are wearing them.

 

[SwingsitlikeHogan]

I don't understand why some forummers are so reluctant to accept that there might be a problem with this style of shoe.

Because for some - views on clothing that can be portrayed as traditional do not count when they have spent money on such as 'fashionable' and 'expensive' new shoes. And in the land of 'me-me' the views of others don't count.

 

[CMAC]

I don't understand why some forummers are so reluctant to accept that there might be a problem with this style of shoe. Despite at least one course banning them and more than one person on here replying that they have seen first hand that the Adizero (and I would assume other shoes with a similar sole design) have been causing damage. There seems to be a bit of a General Melchett from Blackadder moment going on - "If nothing else works, a total pig-headed unwillingness to look facts in the face will see us through". How much evidence do some people need before they will accept that there might be an issue with the design?

might is the key word!

Facts? what facts? 1 or 2 courses have banned them? what about the hundreds of courses that havent, and the golfers that don't see any issues with them? these are also facts.

The 'eveidence' so far appears to be some indentations caused by ice build up on the soles, something that happens with pretty much every golf shoe

 

[ColchesterFC]

might is the key word!

Facts? what facts? 1 or 2 courses have banned them? what about the hundreds of courses that havent, and the golfers that don't see any issues with them? these are also facts.

The 'eveidence' so far appears to be some indentations caused by ice build up on the soles, something that happens with pretty much every golf shoe

Ok poorly worded. I'll rephrase.......I don't understand why some forummers are so reluctant to accept that there IS a problem with this style of shoe.

Just because you haven't seen something with your own eyes doesn't mean it isn't true. The facts are that they have been banned from at least 2 courses that I am aware of and more than one person on here has seen the damage first hand (without going back through the whole thread Blue in Munich - Post 261) and said it wasn't due to ice. How much evidence would you need to see before accepting that there may be an issue? Are you a member of the Flat Earth Society as well or is it simply your job as an Adidas Adizero salesman that prevents you from accepting it?

 

[Deleted member 15344]

I don't understand why some forummers are so reluctant to accept that there might be a problem with this style of shoe. Despite at least one course banning them and more than one person on here replying that they have seen first hand that the Adizero (and I would assume other shoes with a similar sole design) have been causing damage. There seems to be a bit of a General Melchett from Blackadder moment going on - "If nothing else works, a total pig-headed unwillingness to look facts in the face will see us through". How much evidence do some people need before they will accept that there might be an issue with the design?

One course in how many thousands around the world ? A couple of formers in how many hundreds of thousand golfers ?

If it was such a big problem then we would be seeing a lot more of the issue in more areas of the web and we would be hearing and reading multiple articles about it

If it was that much of an issue then why would FJ produce similar design and Adidas bring out new models

Because we haven't I'm in the "nothing it worry about camp" and an overreaction from one course

 

[Pin-seeker]

Ok poorly worded. I'll rephrase.......I don't understand why some forummers are so reluctant to accept that there IS a problem with this style of shoe.

Just because you haven't seen something with your own eyes doesn't mean it isn't true. The facts are that they have been banned from at least 2 courses that I am aware of and more than one person on here has seen the damage first hand (without going back through the whole thread Blue in Munich - Post 261) and said it wasn't due to ice. How much evidence would you need to see before accepting that there may be an issue? Are you a member of the Flat Earth Society as well or is it simply your job as an Adidas Adizero salesman that prevents you from accepting it?

I wear them & don't see any problem,that's enough evidence for me.
If Blue in Munich said he saw a leprechaun moonwalking down the fairway does that mean it's true?
(No offence Blue in Munich)

 

[ColchesterFC]

I wear them & don't see any problem,that's enough evidence for me.

I smoke 20 a day and don't have cancer. That doesn't mean that smoking doesn't cause cancer.

 

[Deleted member 15344]

I smoke 20 a day and don't have cancer. That doesn't mean that smoking doesn't cause cancer.

So why hasn't the problem been more widespread ? Why has there been only one course banning them ?

 

[Pin-seeker]

I smoke 20 a day and don't have cancer. That doesn't mean that smoking doesn't cause cancer.

Yeah that's the same
You sure it's only tobacco?

 

[ColchesterFC]

Yeah that's the same
You sure it's only tobacco?

Just pointing out that just because I haven't experienced it myself it doesn't make it any less true.

 

[Captainron]

I would ban them on looks alone. They look like blooming football boots. Worlds gone mad!

 

[HawkeyeMS]

So why hasn't the problem been more widespread ? Why has there been only one course banning them ?

Do a google search for "adizero shoes damage greens" and you'll see it isn't just a couple of people on here who have noticed it

 

[Deleted member 15344]

Do a google search for "adizero shoes damage greens" and you'll see it isn't just a couple of people on here who have noticed it

Any other courses ban them yet ?

 

[Blue in Munich]

I wear them & don't see any problem,that's enough evidence for me.
If Blue in Munich said he saw a leprechaun moonwalking down the fairway does that mean it's true?
(No offence Blue in Munich)

None taken Pin-seeker. But it was true. The guy in question is a regular playing partner who had a different set of Adidas shoes on this Sunday. Asked where the Adizeros were, he said he wasn't happy with the marks they were leaving and has benched them for the winter.

I'm fully aware that if spikes or cleats ice up they can cause similar problems if players don't knock the ice off, but it isn't the only thing that causes the issue & in this case the Adizeros definitely did. Wish I'd remembered the phone that day, would have taken some shots to show both the marks and the fact that there was no ice involved, and I'd have got a shot of the moonwalking leprechaun.....

 

[CMAC]

None taken Pin-seeker. But it was true. The guy in question is a regular playing partner who had a different set of Adidas shoes on this Sunday. Asked where the Adizeros were, he said he wasn't happy with the marks they were leaving and has benched them for the winter.

I'm fully aware that if spikes or cleats ice up they can cause similar problems if players don't knock the ice off, but it isn't the only thing that causes the issue & in this case the Adizeros definitely did. Wish I'd remembered the phone that day, would have taken some shots to show both the marks and the fact that there was no ice involved, and I'd have got a shot of the moonwalking leprechaun.....

right! that's good enough for me :thup: irrefutable evidence, the defence rests

 

[HawkeyeMS]

Any other courses ban them yet ?

Like I said, a quick google search is your friend. Apparently a club called the Vale has a ban on them

 

[Dave B]

I'm just over 12 stone and have the tours and won't be wearing them again until the greens firm up after noticing how much of an imprint these leave on soft greens. As stated in my previous post it's the raised stud design combined with the long sharp cleats that cause the damage.

It has nothing to do with ice.

Putting it simply the cleats dig in, grip and then when you walk off the cleats have to come out. This combined with the stud depth can damage soft greens.

The cleats on my Footjoy's and Puma's simply grip. In addition the Puma's and Footjoys have additional raised grips that limit the amount of sink on the shoe. The Adizero's simply have the studs and sole plate, there is nothing but the weight distribution across the 10 cleats to stop them sinking to the full stud depth of 11mm.

The worst damage occurs when the golfer lines up for a put and then re-adjusts his footing, leaving a series of imprints where your feet have been. I haven't worn mine since a playing partner pointed it out.

 

[cookelad]

The 'eveidence' so far appears to be some indentations caused by ice build up on the soles, something that happens with pretty much every golf shoe

There was no ice on the greens in Spain in October when the two guys in our group decided not to wear their Adizeros because of the damage they were causing to the greens!

 

[Vice]

Looks like they've changed the cleats on the new version...