Coronavirus - political views - supporting or otherwise...

[Old Skier]

Two types of people, those wanting to understand and follow the guidelines and those who will find any excuse not to.

Simple.

 

[Foxholer]

The below was posted on a local community social media page earlier today;

Latest Government regulations: "If you test positive for coronavirus, or you have symptoms, you now need to self-isolate for 10 days rather than seven. The self-isolation period remains at 14 days for household members of a positive case, people contacted through NHS Test and Trace, and people returning to the UK from certain countries."
I don't know about you, but that sounds self-contradictory.

Why is it that some people are choosing to be so obtuse? It may just be me, but I have found the vast majority of Covid guidelines very straightforward. Simple to understand. And the above is as simple as can be. Not even remotely difficult to grasp.

I am starting to find the public response to the pandemic, in certain quarters at least, very tiresome.

I can understand why some folk can find it 'self contradictory'. But I'd like to think that I understand the reasons. the 4 days 'extra' compared with those who have tested positive is so that symptoms that haven't (yet) appeared can become apparent!

 

[Foxholer]

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The government controlling things regarding masks seems way other the top though

Perhaps, but so bleeding what!
Just do it! At least until a vaccine is widely available!

 

[Billysboots]

Two types of people, those wanting to understand and follow the guidelines and those who will find any excuse not to.

Simple.

Spot on.

 

[HomerJSimpson]

Two types of people, those wanting to understand and follow the guidelines and those who will find any excuse not to.

Simple.

You could take that a step further and say those that don't follow guidelines will look to lay the blame elsewhere if something goes wrong

 

[SocketRocket]

When smart educated people look at scandanavian shaped elephants in the room, examine death rates for the last 3 months, consider the generational damage to public health, the economy, our culture and education bought upon us by the government's policies, perhaps you should think again, rather than dismissing them?

Does a Scandanavian Elephant have horns?

 

[pendodave]

Does a Scandanavian Elephant have horns?

Not sure, but I don't think it wears a mask... ;-)

 

[Lord Tyrion]

Not political but an interesting point from a virologist on the news this morning. Approx 90% of transmissions happen within the family, hence why multiple households should not be mixing. Something to do with how you interact with family more closely, drop your guard I suspect. It shows how important it is to follow the guidelines still in terms of mixing and keeping distance.

 

[Wolf]

Two types of people, those wanting to understand and follow the guidelines and those who will find any excuse not to.

Simple.

Nailed it.... It doesn't matter the demographic of people it literally comes down to the simple fact some will follow because they care and want to do what's right, and others will find excuses not to because it hasn't affected them but when it does there will be excuses that it someone else's fault..

 

[Swinglowandslow]

The below was posted on a local community social media page earlier today;

Latest Government regulations: "If you test positive for coronavirus, or you have symptoms, you now need to self-isolate for 10 days rather than seven. The self-isolation period remains at 14 days for household members of a positive case, people contacted through NHS Test and Trace, and people returning to the UK from certain countries."
I don't know about you, but that sounds self-contradictory.

Why is it that some people are choosing to be so obtuse? It may just be me, but I have found the vast majority of Covid guidelines very straightforward. Simple to understand. And the above is as simple as can be. Not even remotely difficult to grasp.

I am starting to find the public response to the pandemic, in certain quarters at least, very tiresome.

Good post. Very good choice of wording. "Choosing to be so obtuse" describes exactly what is being done.

 

[Swinglowandslow]

The reason for masks now is because the easing of SD, 1 metre rather than 2 etc, as in shops etc , is to offset the chances of transmission that are now greater because of being closer for longer periods.
When you were queuing 2 m apart , two in a shop max etc, people were not close for longish periods. Now, they are allowed to be.

 

[SocketRocket]

Nailed it.... It doesn't matter the demographic of people it literally comes down to the simple fact some will follow because they care and want to do what's right, and others will find excuses not to because it hasn't affected them but when it does there will be excuses that it someone else's fault..

The demographics are very important. There will of course be individuals in all demographics that care/dont care but IMO there are very large numbers of people in certain demographics that are acting irresponsible and the virus spikes are indicative of this.

 

[SwingsitlikeHogan]

The demographics are very important. There will of course be individuals in all demographics that care/dont care but IMO there are very large numbers of people in certain demographics that are acting irresponsible and the virus spikes are indicative of this.

Yes indeed - include the 20 or so individuals not really observing the rules sitting around tables outside a pub in largely 'White middle class’ and generally affluent town in Surrey. No spiking in our area - but probably only because the virus isn't at a higher level in our community. Which is worrying if it does become more prevalent as the behaviours we see are not great.

Lots of different demographics across the whole country are being careless...problems arise if the virus is significant in the community.

 

[Foxholer]

Does a Scandanavian Elephant have horns?

Bleeding great long curly ones! https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Woolly_mammoth#/media/File:MammothVsMastodon.jpg

 

[Foxholer]

A bit sweary, but rather amused me!

https://twitter.com/x/status/1289337864170246144

 

[SocketRocket]

Bleeding great long curly ones! https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Woolly_mammoth#/media/File:MammothVsMastodon.jpg

They certainly had very large tusks but they weren't horns, they were wooly though and this does have a relationship to Sweden's Covid policy.

 

[Foxholer]

They certainly had very large tusks but they weren't horns, they were wooly though and this does have a relationship to Sweden's Covid policy.

Yet it still has fewer Deaths/Million population than UK!
And Norway has way fewer than either!

 

[drdel]

Yet it still has fewer Deaths/Million population than UK!
And Norway has way fewer than either!

And the population density is way lower than the UK.

 

[Foxholer]

And the population density is way lower than the UK.

Another flawed 'throwaway' comment! That stat would be likely be relevant for 'Cases per Mill' - but not (directly) to Deaths/Million!
In Norway's case; perhaps, as both stats are significantly lower. But Sweden's (with twice the population of Norway) doesn't!

But you are certainly making an argument for 'social distancing' and/or wearing of masks when SD is easily breached. .

 

[Billysboots]

And the population density is way lower than the UK.

The U.K. population has certainly proved itself to be dense.

Sorry. Couldn’t resist the temptation.