Coronavirus - political views - supporting or otherwise...

[pendodave]

There's a lot of "didn't know what the effect on the economy" and "caused by covid" tripping off the tongue in the last few posts.
Let's be clear, lest BJ and the toryboyz on here try and forget it:
The horrific damage to the economy was completely predictable. As night follows day.
It was caused by grotesquely disproportionate and short sighted govt policies.
Carry on...

 

[Hobbit]

What a massive leap of whataboutery. What’s next? Blame the old people for being old?

We get blamed for everything else slow play, smelling of wee, being grumpy...

 

[rudebhoy]

The government may have asked the NHS to clear out beds but it was the decision of the clinicians which beds were cleared.

Is that a barrel I can hear being scraped?

 

[Kellfire]

We get blamed for everything else slow play, smelling of wee, being grumpy...

And we all know what age group doomed us to Brexit. ?

 

[Hobbit]

And we all know what age group doomed us to Brexit. ?

Don't blame me for that one, or Hogie. We voted Remain, although we probably didn't know what we were voting for

 

[Old Skier]

Is that a barrel I can hear being scraped?

No but if you have information to the contrary feel free to disprove it.

 

[Kellfire]

Don't blame me for that one, or Hogie. We voted Remain, although we probably didn't know what we were voting for

Probably your children and grandchildren.

 

[Old Skier]

What a massive leap of whataboutery. What’s next? Blame the old people for being old?

So were is the whataboutary, are you saying that the clinical decisions on patient care is now at government level and has been taken out of doctors hands. Interesting.

 

[Deleted member 16999]

With the greatest respect Paul, if Hogie posts up any example its fair game to comment on, positively or negatively. I was blunt in my last reply to him when he did, not playing the poster, but because I felt he was not doing him any favours in the long term. It was an honest opinion, given without any malice aforethought. He replied sharply, which I had no problem with at all, and agreed with most of his reply.

However, if he continues to use personal examples he must accept that people will reply as they see fit. Some might agree with him, and in the main I do, but those who don't are fully entitled to reply as they see fit. Whether that reply is viewed as "fit" is for any other reader to decide.

I agree Bri, hence suggesting he starts his own thread about his son, the problem is the replies take the thread off track.
I’ve no sympathy with silh, he opens the door and people step through, I do question some of the replies though when they are from some who add nothing else to the thread.

 

[SocketRocket]

And we all know what age group doomed us to Brexit. ?

Old lives matter, you are so Agest.

 

[SocketRocket]

There's a lot of "didn't know what the effect on the economy" and "caused by covid" tripping off the tongue in the last few posts.
Let's be clear, lest BJ and the toryboyz on here try and forget it:
The horrific damage to the economy was completely predictable. As night follows day.
It was caused by grotesquely disproportionate and short sighted govt policies.
Carry on...

Oh yes, that 'preventing the virus overwhelming the NHS' policy, very shortsighted ?
'Toryboyz' is that your best putdown ?

 

[chrisd]

Old lives matter, you are so Agest.

We were just putting right what, back in the mid 70's, the oldies were conned into voting for ?

 

[Foxholer]

It's not twaddle, its what you do.

It may be your opinion that it's what I do, but that's simply your opinion, and there's a saying about how common and variable those are!
My reply was refuting the assertion about why ! So I'll stick with my original description thanks!

 

[Deleted member 21784]

So I have no idea what to make of our chanchler. He seems blooming fantastic. Almost an anti Tory. Going for growth rather than cut cut cut. Seems likeable and seems to have the right issues on the agenda.

However he was Cummings pick.. has the advisers he wanted.. can't stand Cummings at all. Yet it's almost like it works? So confusing.

Will see what happens over the next few budgets but this one is good.

Why can't the leader have this much respect and professionalism? Much like starma in a way just respectable and carries himself well. Rather than the buffoon

I'd like to see him lead the Tories against starmia so we have 2 completely creditable choices.

 

[Swinglowandslow]

There's a lot of "didn't know what the effect on the economy" and "caused by covid" tripping off the tongue in the last few posts.
Let's be clear, lest BJ and the toryboyz on here try and forget it:
The horrific damage to the economy was completely predictable. As night follows day.
It was caused by grotesquely disproportionate and short sighted govt policies.
Carry on...

Crap- it was caused by Covid. It may have been predictable , but the virus wasn't going to be any different from what it did , what it does, and what it will do until we (hopefully ) get a vaccine.
Actions are now being taken to fight the effects on the economy by this government , headed by Boris, and explained by the Chancellor. Actions which not many would have expected from a Tory government, even lifelong supporters of it.
But, no doubt, these efforts will be attacked because of who are making them, the "enemy" that can do no right.
I have never seen as much venom and refusal to acknowledge credit where it's due as I have in the last few months, both on this forum and ,latterly,from H.M
Opposition.

 

[MegaSteve]

One day team tory will grasp the benefits of the six P's...

 

[Doon frae Troon]

So those 10 years of Tory austerity we all struggled through were just an exercise in Tory ideology.
The money tree was available all along.

BTW it now looks like the testing numbers in E&W were just made up to fit the Tory agenda.
I am certain that will come as no great surprise to most sensible folk.

 

[Old Skier]

So those 10 years of Tory austerity we all struggled through were just an exercise in Tory ideology.
The money tree was available all along.

BTW it now looks like the testing numbers in E&W were just made up to fit the Tory agenda.
I am certain that will come as no great surprise to most sensible folk.

Perhaps a few branches are there because of austerity.

 

[Ethan]

The government may have asked the NHS to clear out beds but it was the decision of the clinicians which beds were cleared.

No, it was care home residents being returned to care homes. And there would have been less need to clear anybody out if successive Tory Govts had not run NHS bed numbers down to the lowest amongst western civilised countries.

 

[Ethan]

Crap- it was caused by Covid. It may have been predictable , but the virus wasn't going to be any different from what it did , what it does, and what it will do until we (hopefully ) get a vaccine.
Actions are now being taken to fight the effects on the economy by this government , headed by Boris, and explained by the Chancellor. Actions which not many would have expected from a Tory government, even lifelong supporters of it.
But, no doubt, these efforts will be attacked because of who are making them, the "enemy" that can do no right.
I have never seen as much venom and refusal to acknowledge credit where it's due as I have in the last few months, both on this forum and ,latterly,from H.M
Opposition.

Ok, explain how the pigheaded refusal to extend transition will help the economy. It won't, and even Liz Truss is worried. When Liz Truss is worried, we are screwed.

The UK economy will be crippled by Covid and the end of transition will kick its crutches away. Certainty is not welcome if it is certainty of further collapse.

The Tory Govt had no choice but to throw money at Covid - every other economy is doing so too. Lets see how they pay for it. And don't forget the fat contracts wasted on Tory donors. Its a wonder Wetherspoons didn't get the contract to make a vaccine. God knows their places incubate enough micro-organisms.