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spongebob59 said:
A friend of mine says his club have started doing takeaway beer in 1 pint plastic glasses , which I'm sure is not within the rules :rolleyes:
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Considering pubs are offering take away drinks and have for a while it's fine.

Our club is looking into doing a little outside bar to sell drinks to the golfers in sealed cups etc
 
harpo_72 said:
Not locked down, majority of business has continued. Restaurant table covers are reduced, shops have ticketing systems and distances measured. But no One is confined, they are responsible for their and others well being. The senior managers make the decisions about the offices, mine requires special permission for attendance. However the business goes on it still happens. Some time it’s hard but you take the bull by the horns and try and resolve it.
The Swedes are not popular at the moment with both Danish and Norwegians saying no visits but then they come over to Sweden. Personally I don’t think we should say one person only cannot come in .. each country should stop or control travel. Irrespective of where the person has come from.. they could be transporting the virus or they could be exposed to the virus.
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Thanks for the info. The other big difference is population density (maybe in more than one way ?)
 
For those wishing the Cummings fiasco will just disappear, bad news.
Marr putting Rabb on the spot by asking which parts of the 'World beating' TTT can the public ignore by using their own best judgement.
 
Welsh in rebellion now.. :-)

Next door neighbour and son went to Bristol yesterday to play tennis....and 4 of them in our village have pay and play golf at Woodlands in Bristol booked for tomorrow.

Drakeford said no tennis and yes to tennis in 2 speeches 3 hours apart on Friday Welsh LTA are back in with him later.... confused and miffed

Just as well that Welsh Labour are giving kids the vote or Drakeford and his weirdos would be out.
 
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Doon frae Troon said:
For those wishing the Cummings fiasco will just disappear, bad news.
Marr putting Rabb on the spot by asking which parts of the 'World beating' TTT can the public ignore by using their own best judgement.
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I watched it and quite frankly Marr just, once again, looked what he is.
Washed up!

No originality and no tenacity to his questions, merely a repeat of those we heard earlier in the week when this was at the forefront of the public's attention.

After the revelations about some of his accusers probably now best to move on.

Nobody's likely to now change their opinion.
 
Liverpoolphil said:
Many clubs are doing the same - it’s acceptable within the rules

This is The Addington
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Complete with the obligatory moron standing in just the right position to eat his burger to ensure that no-one else can get to the counter whilst maintaining 2m social distancing. :rolleyes:
 
I am really not sure that UK being somewhere in the transition between levels 4 and 3 of the government's risk assessment is the time to initiate relaxations that we were sold as happening when we are at Level 3. If the levels were based upon 'the science' then the government cannot be following 'the science' as it has chosen to relax in advance of level 3 being achieved. Yes I know it is not full relaxation - but that was not what the Levels said and the message the government told us.

And my worry is compounded by the fact that there were nearly 2,000 new cases reported yesterday. Given that one key factor driving relaxation and for Risk Level 3 was readiness of Contact Tracing to deal with all new infections, how the heck do the Contact Tracers deal with 2,000 new infections a day? OK - if the number of new infections was perhaps down in the few hundreds - but it is still in the thousands. Despite however many contact tracers the government advised it has employed from what I hear the whole programme is simply not ready to go.

Surely to goodness we run the contact tracing for at least at couple or three weeks to make sure it is 'fit for purpose' and THEN the government can start relaxing lockdown.

So why has this happened now? Many Public Health professionals are saying it's too soon So why?

I am afraid that I cannot but ask whether or not it could in any way be linked to the self-proclaimed Important C....? Surely Johnson and the Quad would not be quite so politically self-serving - but I am not so sure, as I really don't know why we are not waiting a few more weeks until we are at Level 3 and Contact Tracing is proven to be working well.
 
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SwingsitlikeHogan said:
I am really not sure that UK being somewhere in the transition between levels 4 and 3 of the government's risk assessment is the time to initiate relaxations that we were sold as happening when we are at Level 3. If the levels were based upon 'the science' then the government cannot be following 'the science' as it has chosen to relax in advance of level 3 being achieved. Yes I know it is not full relaxation - but that was not what the Levels said and the message the government told us.

And my worry is compounded by the fact that there were nearly 2,000 new cases reported yesterday. Given that one key factor driving relaxation and for Risk Level 3 was readiness of Contact Tracing to deal with all new infections, how the heck do the Contact Tracers deal with 2,000 new infections a day? OK - if the number of new infections was perhaps down in the few hundreds - but it is still in the thousands. Despite however many contact tracers the government advised it has employed from what I hear the whole programme is simply not ready to go.

Surely to goodness we run the contact tracing for at least at couple or three weeks to make sure it is 'fit for purpose' and THEN the government can start relaxing lockdown.

So why has this happened now? Many Public Health professionals are saying it's too soon So why?

I am afraid that I cannot but ask whether or not it could in any way be linked to the self-proclaimed Important C....? Surely Johnson and the Quad would not be quite so politically self-serving - but I am not so sure, as I really don't know why we are not waiting a few more weeks until we are at Level 3 and Contact Tracing is proven to be working well.
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At first I thought the government were doing well in this crisis .
But my opinion has changed big time , they seem to be doing things off the cuff.
We are not ready yet .
I never belive what politicians say anyway ,any of them.
 
clubchamp98 said:
At first I thought the government were doing well in this crisis .
But my opinion has changed big time , they seem to be doing things off the cuff.
We are not ready yet .
I never belive what politicians say anyway ,any of them.
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I think the government are reacting to how the public are acting, they maybe should have been a bit more authoritarian rather than playing the softly softly, please do as we say approach.
 
I think that there is a part that is the government reacting to how the public are acting and a large financial element. I think that this is a basic attempt to get some parts of the economy moving and get some people off furlough so as, if needed, some of scheme can be extended for parts of the economy that cannot open. People have accepted furlough far better because most are getting 80% of their salary. Once that cannot be paid, and that time is coming, then I can see the clamor to get back to work but by then it may already be too late for a number of companies (already it probably is).

It is a very fine line between keeping people safe at their jobs and making sure there are jobs left for people to be safe at.
 
Beezerk said:
I think the government are reacting to how the public are acting, they maybe should have been a bit more authoritarian rather than playing the softly softly, please do as we say approach.
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Lot to be said for that. Especially when I hear a sunbather on Southend beach telling a reporter that she's 'bored' of the restrictions - BORED F*S! It's frustrating and difficult for us all and we can get a bit fed up - but the restrictions don't 'bore' me. I think the government has stopped talking about them 'following' the science - more talk these days of them being 'informed' by the science. Which is all they ever were despite the assertions that there was nothing political at all about what was being decided.

Anyway - despite Alok Sharma's prevarications this morning (on LBC) on whether the government would apply a second lockdown if things went wrong - maybe if that is required it will HAVE to be more stringent. And that will be fun - not :(
 
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