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SaintHacker said:
Been a couple of days since we've seen Laura Kussenberg or Robert Peston at the press conferences (thankfully), has some from 'higher up' finally had a word?
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That would be sensible, however since its the BBC and ITV where the egos reign, I suspect not a blink of an eye took place.
 
Kaz said:
Some good questions today I thought. Especially the one about if we estimate 8000 new infections a day even though we're locked down etc who exactly is getting infected? Think we need a handle on that to target measures effectively. Didn't get a proper answer, unfortunately.
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I liked the one that gave the chance to Van-Tam to say that the guidance applies to everyone, government advisors are not excluded. And he didn't bottle it. May be I'm reading too much into what he said but it seemed clear to me he was very concerned about us screwing these new freedoms up, and he was concerned about how we could row back on the easing of lockdown once the genie was out of the bottle.
 
Hacker Khan said:
I liked the one that gave the chance to Van-Tam to say that the guidance applies to everyone, government advisors are not excluded. And he didn't bottle it. May be I'm reading too much into what he said but it seemed clear to me he was very concerned about us screwing these new freedoms up, and he was concerned about how we could row back on the easing of lockdown once the genie was out of the bottle.
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I thought he reiterated the point a couple of times and there seemed to be a definite feeling that he wasn't 100% comfortable of how far we've relaxed
 
Kaz said:
Some good questions today I thought. Especially the one about if we estimate 8000 new infections a day even though we're locked down etc who exactly is getting infected? Think we need a handle on that to target measures effectively. Didn't get a proper answer, unfortunately.
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Gosh that’s crap, the unlocked down Sweden numbers are 700 infections total deaths are around 4200
They have not been treating the elderly with oxygen either which has caused some controversy. The care homes have taken a battering. However everything else has been okay.
I had a walk around Gothenburg today, early around 10:30 am it was quiet, places just opening up but people were shopping and in bars having breakfasts ..
 
harpo_72 said:
Gosh that’s crap, the unlocked down Sweden numbers are 700 infections total deaths are around 4200
They have not been treating the elderly with oxygen either which has caused some controversy. The care homes have taken a battering. However everything else has been okay.
I had a walk around Gothenburg today, early around 10:30 am it was quiet, places just opening up but people were shopping and in bars having breakfasts ..
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And the difference between Sweden and the UK is!
 
For what I think is the first time that the government advice ( easing of lockdown ) appears to be at some odds with the ( some stated)unanimous scientific recommendations, there is quiet here from those who have been not slow to criticise this government's handling of the pandemic.?
Surely, you can't be in agreement with the latest easing?
What do you reckon?
For clarity, I think things are being moved too quickly.
 
Swinglowandslow said:
For what I think is the first time that the government advice ( easing of lockdown ) appears to be at some odds with the ( some stated)unanimous scientific recommendations, there is quiet here from those who have been not slow to criticise this government's handling of the pandemic
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A Scottish hero said you up to 8 people can meet, so it's fine.

The science says within a week you can't play a 2 ball, but you can meet up in a large group. Stay at home, but go out. (ideally within 5 miles) - not sure what that means if it's further.

Thank lord they diverted from the PM's message once it became "too confusing".
 
Was chatting to my colleague today, he was saying was lovely to see his mum yest they had a BBQ in his garden social distance etc. Was very happy to see her..kids loved it etc.

I said you know it's Monday it ends right? He went oh. Didn't realise thought was Friday because he announced it thursday.

Your average person who doesn't fully follow this event will rely on snippets and others to tell. He will have been told by the Mrs who will have heard from a friend.

The messages from top need to be clearer. Black and white . No grey
 
SocketRocket said:
And the difference between Sweden and the UK is!
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Not locked down, majority of business has continued. Restaurant table covers are reduced, shops have ticketing systems and distances measured. But no One is confined, they are responsible for their and others well being. The senior managers make the decisions about the offices, mine requires special permission for attendance. However the business goes on it still happens. Some time it’s hard but you take the bull by the horns and try and resolve it.
The Swedes are not popular at the moment with both Danish and Norwegians saying no visits but then they come over to Sweden. Personally I don’t think we should say one person only cannot come in .. each country should stop or control travel. Irrespective of where the person has come from.. they could be transporting the virus or they could be exposed to the virus.
 
pauljames87 said:
Was chatting to my colleague today, he was saying was lovely to see his mum yest they had a BBQ in his garden social distance etc. Was very happy to see her..kids loved it etc.

I said you know it's Monday it ends right? He went oh. Didn't realise thought was Friday because he announced it thursday.

Your average person who doesn't fully follow this event will rely on snippets and others to tell. He will have been told by the Mrs who will have heard from a friend.

The messages from top need to be clearer. Black and white . No grey
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I’m going for a drink today with friends, there will be 5 of us in their garden which is very big so absolutely no issues with social distancing etc.

Is it breaking the rules? Yes, absolutely however with all this talk of being ‘alert’ and using common sense I think it’s actually more sensible than those rules that have been laid out for us. Our local parks/green spaces are full, it’s very difficult to move around those areas whilst maintaining 1m distance, let alone 2m. I can go to the friends garden, no worry about having to move out the way for other people, a far lower chance of awkward encounters.
 
road2ruin said:
I’m going for a drink today with friends, there will be 5 of us in their garden which is very big so absolutely no issues with social distancing etc.

Is it breaking the rules? Yes, absolutely however with all this talk of being ‘alert’ and using common sense I think it’s actually more sensible than those rules that have been laid out for us. Our local parks/green spaces are full, it’s very difficult to move around those areas whilst maintaining 1m distance, let alone 2m. I can go to the friends garden, no worry about having to move out the way for other people, a far lower chance of awkward encounters.
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That's fine until people have had a few drinks, then social distancing goes out the window. Saw this in our street on VE Day. What started off as civilised and following the rules mid afternoon had turned into a drunken rabble by 9pm.
 
road2ruin said:
I’m going for a drink today with friends, there will be 5 of us in their garden which is very big so absolutely no issues with social distancing etc.

Is it breaking the rules? Yes, absolutely however with all this talk of being ‘alert’ and using common sense I think it’s actually more sensible than those rules that have been laid out for us. Our local parks/green spaces are full, it’s very difficult to move around those areas whilst maintaining 1m distance, let alone 2m. I can go to the friends garden, no worry about having to move out the way for other people, a far lower chance of awkward encounters.
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Turns out we have been breaking the rules for afornight . The mrs has been having her mum in the garden, whilst im out or inside. She said its safer than her going to the park (makes sense) boris clearly said that from Monday you can now meet in gardens where was parks before

I was like whoops ..didn't get that right

I know a few people who are meeting family this weekend because they haven't seen their parents in 10 weeks but feel the weekend is safer before they go back to work Monday with the kids and could bring something back. Understand the logic

I'm glad I'm working this weekend. Would be hard not to break
 
rudebhoy said:
That's fine until people have had a few drinks, then social distancing goes out the window. Saw this in our street on VE Day. What started off as civilised and following the rules mid afternoon had turned into a drunken rabble by 9pm.
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I guess that depends on the individual groups in question. We’re unlikely to be drinking into the evening, it’ll be a nice afternoon in the sun in a controlled environment rather than taking my chances in a local park etc with hundreds of others.

We also have children going back to school in the next week so I guess our chances of infection are going to be increased anyway.
 
DanFST said:
A Scottish hero said you up to 8 people can meet, so it's fine.

The science says within a week you can't play a 2 ball, but you can meet up in a large group. Stay at home, but go out. (ideally within 5 miles) - not sure what that means if it's further.

Thank lord they diverted from the PM's message once it became "too confusing".
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In Scotland is up to eight people from two households, meeting outdoors, standard lockdown procedures.
In England I believe it is up to 6 people from up to 6 different households.
Big difference.
 
spongebob59 said:
A friend of mine says his club have started doing takeaway beer in 1 pint plastic glasses , which I'm sure is not within the rules :rolleyes:
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Many clubs are doing the same - it’s acceptable within the rules

This is The Addington
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