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Yes, absolutely. We live in a democracy, votes are essential to that. This is 2020, can it be that hard to arrange an online voting system for MPs?

The building, Westminster, the systems, the terminology, everything about parliament is archaic and needs bringing into the modern era.


Everyone wants reform until they get to the position where they can initiate reform, then it no longer suits them.


Politics is broken at it's core at all levels in the UK. Don't even get me started on the building, costing us millions because they need access to a bar.
 
QT worked well last night with a virtual audience. Bruce was excellent [for a change]
How incompetent do you have to be to be a government minister...…..Helen Whatley gave a masterclass.
Scotland looks like it is not going to sweep the Cummings fiasco under the carpet anytime soon.
Massie seems to have defected to the SNP. :eek:
 
My understanding of the use of “paraphrase” is that it demonstrates understanding. It doesn’t achieve anything. I’m happy to be corrected though as I don’t have a reference to back it up ??[/QUOTE

My experience of paraphrase is that it is the mother of all cock ups.
As in "send three and four pence....etc"??
 
The civil liberties "individual" who has just stated on the news that a 14-day quarantine could be "'unimaginably disruptive to people's lives".

So could you or one or your elderly relatives dying of Covid-19.
Perplexes me why they give airtime to these muppets.

Hopefully we'll have a vaccine soon so we can enjoy the anti-vaxxers' inane ramblings too.
 
A different phase of the one project - Brexit !
My view is that while his talents may have been 'needed'/valuable in the 'selling Brexit' phase, they are not the sort of talents that are needed for the negotiation or implementation phases. He seems much more a 'blue sky thinking' sort of advisor rather than a 'detail' one that is necessary for the next phases of Brexit. I wouldn't imagine he'd be particularly interested in those phases though likely would be interested in the 'post Brexit relationships' UK has with rest of the World. This may or may not include the EU as a group - as part of 'The Deal', but I'd think not, as he's a planner, not a negotiator imo.
 
Perplexes me why they give airtime to these muppets.

Hopefully we'll have a vaccine soon so we can enjoy the anti-vaxxers' inane ramblings too.
This is when you have people wanting balanced views rather than objective views. Coming soon you have to listen to pro pedophiles on crime watch. ;-(
 
Anyway - I guess that Cummings will be gone soon after 1st Jan 2021 - with him hanging on in there until then to make sure that there is no backsliding from Johnson or his buddies on the departure date...:)
 
Yes, absolutely. We live in a democracy, votes are essential to that. This is 2020, can it be that hard to arrange an online voting system for MPs?

The building, Westminster, the systems, the terminology, everything about parliament is archaic and needs bringing into the modern era.
You need to remember just who is the Leader of the House.
 
You need to remember just who is the Leader of the House.
Ha ha, fair point. Sadly, no one is really trying to modernise it, nor have they in the past. The building is falling down and they will have to move out shortly. That would be the ideal time to turn the Palace of Westminster into a pay to visit tourist attraction, build a new, fit for purpose, modern parliament. It doesn't need to be an architectural money pit 10 years in the building but it does need to house all MP's, staff and have a modern chamber with electronic voting.
 
Ha ha, fair point. Sadly, no one is really trying to modernise it, nor have they in the past
I think you have to have a party campaigning with a reform like this and getting traction. See the Liberal Democrats with single preferential vote or ukip with the withdrawal from the European Union. This can then force a government into a referendum and possibly into change.
 
Ha ha, fair point. Sadly, no one is really trying to modernise it, nor have they in the past. The building is falling down and they will have to move out shortly. That would be the ideal time to turn the Palace of Westminster into a pay to visit tourist attraction, build a new, fit for purpose, modern parliament. It doesn't need to be an architectural money pit 10 years in the building but it does need to house all MP's, staff and have a modern chamber with electronic voting.
That's right. A start would be changing from the facing benches to a layout more like the EU Parliament (must go and lay down after saying that)
 
Everyone wants reform until they get to the position where they can initiate reform, then it no longer suits them.


Politics is broken at it's core at all levels in the UK. Don't even get me started on the building, costing us millions because they need access to a bar.
I do agree with you. I would add that the expectations of politics have been transformed through the manipulation of perception by Social media, Press media and Television media. It has become increasingly difficult to take a neutral or detached view, we are bombarded with conflicting information and it's easy for us to filter it through our traditional beliefs and prejudice.
 
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Everyone wants reform until they get to the position where they can initiate reform, then it no longer suits them.


Politics is broken at it's core at all levels in the UK. Don't even get me started on the building, costing us millions because they need access to a bar.
Isn’t the bar subsidised as well ?
So they pay less than us .
 
That's right. A start would be changing from the facing benches to a layout more like the EU Parliament (must go and lay down after saying that)
Totally agree on this. It would reduce the childish nature of debates, the jeering, the animosity. If split up, I would have each seat linked to a constituency, it would reduce the tribal element which can only be good.
 
This is when you have people wanting balanced views rather than objective views. Coming soon you have to listen to pro pedophiles on crime watch. ;-(
Balance is a good thing.

Positioning the slider is the tricky part.

Always.

I do love the personal liberty vs death argument though .
 
Totally agree on this. It would reduce the childish nature of debates, the jeering, the animosity. If split up, I would have each seat linked to a constituency, it would reduce the tribal element which can only be good.
Yes and put it in the middle of the country somewhere.
They could use the old one for an English Parliament then.
 
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