Coronavirus - political views - supporting or otherwise...

[rudebhoy]

Horrible rag, but today's front page is a belter, Viz-like.

 

[Beezerk]

Horrible rag, but today's front page is a belter, Viz-like.

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Funny, but at the same time irresponsible.

 

[SwingsitlikeHogan]

I think Matt Hancock has stood on a landmine trying to answer that first question from the public. Will be interesting....

Jenrick this morning has said that they have looked into it and it's a police law enforcement matter and not something the government should get involved in. Not quite what MattH was alluding to...but there you go.

 

[Deleted member 21258]

Another one who went for a long drive to see his parents, clearly of course to drop off essential supplies during the lockdown and now implying the government does not control the police, no the government only makes policy and the law. Its the police problem. Its all bonkers.

Not sure how these people get to the point, where they have no shame in what they say or their actions.

 

[SwingsitlikeHogan]

To extend my metaphor, Hancock stood on a landmine and now government are frantically trying to defuse it before it explodes.

Utterly depressing the mishandling of the situation. Meanwhile we need to hope the spike in Covid cases yesterday was down to a lag in reporting after the holiday weekend.

Did Hancock misspeak? - Jenrick was asked - well apparently Hancock's answer was his immediate, and perhaps not fully considered, response to a question he didn't expect...

No matter - Jenrick's wriggling this morning was a nice counter-balance to the complete and utter guff spouted with 100% certainty by Andrew Bridgen on Newsnight last night. Though why should I be surprised that Bridgen = Guff

 

[rudebhoy]

Another one who went for a long drive to see his parents, clearly of course to drop off essential supplies during the lockdown and now implying the government does not control the police, no the government only makes policy and the law. Its the police problem. Its all bonkers.

Not sure how these people get to the point, where they have no shame in what they say or their actions.

He drove 110 miles to go to his second home (a £1m mansion), and then another 40 miles to his parents. His excuse was he was dropping off food and medicines. Doesn't he know pharmacies and supermarkets deliver these days, and there are local charities who will help out if you are really stuck? I'd love to know how many "little people" have driven 150 miles to drop stuff off? Am betting very few, because they knew it was wrong, and there are other solutions.

 

[Doon frae Troon]

I believe she'd have a significant clothing/appearance allowance.

Unlike Johnson or Cummings, they seem to shop at ASDA and Oxfam

 

[SwingsitlikeHogan]

With Test, Track and Trace high on the political agenda - it's two weeks since Mrs SILH provided her identify and residency evidence to NHS Professionals in respect of her application for a job as a Contact Tracer - and she has heard nothing. Clearly they have all the CTs they need, which is good.

And I keep hearing of a guacamole strategy in this context...curious...

 

[SocketRocket]

With Test, Track and Trace high on the political agenda - it's two weeks since Mrs SILH provided her identify and residency evidence to NHS Professionals in respect of her application for a job as a Contact Tracer - and she has heard nothing. Clearly they have all the CTs they need, which is good.

And I keep hearing of a guacamole strategy in this context...curious...

Would be good to have a reply though.

 

[SwingsitlikeHogan]

Would be good to have a reply though.

On the 13th May she got an initial acknowledgement from her application (submitted 10th May) asking for evidence which she provided the same day. No acknowledgement of receipt of evidence - and application status on-line has not changed from 'seeking trust approval'. And so currently (as in the Email of 13th)

Once we have checked your application, we will be in touch to arrange an interview during which we will also check your identity and Right to Work documentation.

As you say - would be nice to have some form of update. Because she is now feeling that she is frankly not that bothered about the job as NHSP don't seem to be that bothered about engaging with her. From the email the intent is clearly to do the interview whilst evidence checking is ongoing. Anyway - Jeremy knows.

 

[SwingsitlikeHogan]

Given that Cummings has told us that neither he nor the PM can recall the conversation they had about him having been in Durham etc as they were both suffering the after effects of the disease - What Did Raab Know about Cummings heading off to Durham whilst he was deputising for the PM whilst the PM was ill.

 

[Deleted member 16999]

Given that Cummings has told us that neither he nor the PM can recall the conversation they had about him having been in Durham etc as they were both suffering the after effects of the disease - What Did Raab Know about Cummings heading off to Durham whilst he was deputising for the PM whilst the PM was ill.

Why does it matter?

 

[SwingsitlikeHogan]

Why does it matter?

If the PM was out the game when Cummings decided to head north, it might have been a good idea to discuss that decision with the acting-PM. No? Just in case Raab thought it might not go down that well if the public got a sniff of it? Did Raab approve Cummings cunning plan?

All about openness and clarity...and that's what really matters - as the government has told us they will provide. Openness and clarity.

 

[Deleted member 16999]

If the PM was out the game when Cummings decided to head north, it night have been a good idea to discuss that decision with the acting-PM. No? Just in case Raab thought it might not go down that well if the public got a sniff of it? Did Raab approve Cummings cunning plan?

All about openness and clarity...and that's what really matters - as the government has told us they will provide. Openness and clarity.

PM wasn’t out the game at the end of March and we were being told he was still in charge, he was admitted to hospital 10 days after testing positive around 4/5 April. cummings had been up north nearly a week by then.

 

[SwingsitlikeHogan]

PM wasn’t out the game at the end of March and we were being told he was still in charge, he was admitted to hospital 10 days after testing positive around 4/5 April. cummings had been up north nearly a week by then.

So...Cummings didn't tell the PM of what he was going to do before he did it...ah well...

 

[Doon frae Troon]

PM wasn’t out the game at the end of March and we were being told he was still in charge, he was admitted to hospital 10 days after testing positive around 4/5 April. cummings had been up north nearly a week by then.

I cannot understand why no one has picked up on this.
According to Tory HQ Johnson was running the government from his hospital bed.
According to Cummings he was at deaths door.
So many holes in Cummings very long statement.

 

[Old Skier]

Just back from a walk over towards the Lido... Any evidence of lockdown/distancing have absolutely disappeared into the ether... IMHO a lot of that firmly lies at the feet of government... Their spineless behaviour, over the last few days, has hardly been an indicator of leading by example...

Lockdown disappeared in Devon & Cornwall long before the Cummings affair, their now coming to kill themselves. Running out of Darwin Awards, Stay Out of The Water doesn't seem to get through to e everyone but I suppose they can use the Cummings excuse when they get to the pearly gates.

Using someone else's stupidity as a reason is a little silly.

 

[Deleted member 16999]

I cannot understand why no one has picked up on this.
According to Tory HQ Johnson was running the government from his hospital bed.
According to Cummings he was at deaths door.
So many holes in Cummings very long statement.

Or people are holding trowels and making holes.
I’m not sticking up for cummings, but if the questions weren’t asked over the pm’s health at the time they are irrelevant now.

 

[MegaSteve]

Lockdown disappeared in Devon & Cornwall long before the Cummings affair, their now coming to kill themselves. Running out of Darwin Awards, Stay Out of The Water doesn't seem to get through to e everyone but I suppose they can use the Cummings excuse when they get to the pearly gates.

Using someone else's stupidity as a reason is a little silly.

Rightly or wrongly I've put the relatively good behaviour, in these parts, down to folk being aware of the high number of cases locally... Worryingly the last few days has seen that behaviour slide downhill...

And, if Cummings had used some of the brains he's attributed with he wouldn't have been in mine, or others, firing line...

 

[rudebhoy]

For the 5th day in a row, the actual number of people tested is 'unavailable'. So the only figure we get is the one inflated by the number of test kits posted out. This stinks.

https://www.gov.uk/guidance/coronavirus-covid-19-information-for-the-public