rulefan
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He must have gone to Durham a second time. The papers said so. It must be true.
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AmandaJR
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They lied about elements which made his behaviour seem much worse. Therefore they lose the moral high ground they were so keen to say they had with all their "regular contact with No. 10 prior to printing" etc. It's not complicated.
Hacker Khan
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You are right, the second trip really tipped it over the edge for me. Before that he wasn't was doing anything wrong.....
chrisd
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I reckon he'll resign in the next 24 hours and with rise from the dead in 6 to 9 months as other advisers have done over the years. I agree with Hacker in that he was ok until the eye test drive
larmen
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You can do that to test the tint of your glasses.
Hacker Khan
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Well I didn't think he was OK before that, but genuinely good to see a sense of decency sometimes over rides political affiliations, some of whom seem alarmingly to be doing down the Trump route of rubbishing the press who broke the story.
Blue in Munich
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One of the commentators describing this said he felt like he'd been hired to do the post-match analysis at the Salem witch hunt. Sums it up perfectly.
SwingsitlikeHogan
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Where does it say in the guidelines that we are able to test our fitness to drive?
Anyway. He sounded contrite, and he and his family have clearly had a very difficult time, but though he expressed a couple of regrets on things he might have done better about communicating about what he was to do and did - he didn't seem to have any regrets whatsoever over what he did. Everything was justified in the circumstances and he adhered to the rules.
And I didn't think it great to tell us that the fact that many of us were upset with what he did was was the fault of untrue reporting by the media. He understood how we could have been duped by that misreporting (seems we are easily duped - well he might know) - if only we'd known the truth we would not have been so annoyed with him. When in fact what many were upset about were the things that we know to be true - not how the media reported it - and what the media reported that has been refuted - or explained away.
My wife was watching and listening with me and had a great deal sympathy over his predicament, however as he spoke she said on more than one occasion and is still saying it now - 'just say sorry'.
I recall the Scottish Chief Medical or Scientific Officer encouraging everyone (in Scotland) to stick with the simple rules - don't look for loopholes - don't try a push the boundaries - just accept the basic rules as they are set out and work out how to live within them.
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You are quite correct. Journalists writing fabricated articles in the press have completely lost all credibility. The one in the Spectator a few weeks ago about the Cumming’s families experiences of being ill during the lockdown now appears to be completely false. You know, the one written by Mary Wakefield. Now where have I heard her name before?
AmandaJR
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My heart sinks whenever I see you've responded to a post of mine. Sarcasm abounds.
I'm quoting the truth about the press coverage and its untruths.
AmandaJR
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If you care to look back at this thread you'll see I've said at least once he should go. I feel no different but the press have done their usual and should be called out on it. If they were whiter than white then he would not have any moral high ground.
I resent being compared to a moronic trump supporter with no sense of decency.
I resent being compared to a moronic trump supporter with no sense of decency.
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rudebhoy
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Why did his wife who was self isolating drive their son to hospital? Was that not exactly the type of thing his sister and nieces were on hand for? Same for Cummings going to pick them up the next day?
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I wish he’d if made the statement saturday or the day before, good to hear from him.
Made a fair point about security concerns on his home, but that applies to all MP’s, Celebrities and others in the public eye.
Genuinely believe his reasons for driving to Durham, but took it more as a father/husband in panic mode and looking for the “legal” reason to be able to do it rather than him thinking straight and I can understand it.
Barnard Castle trip, (apart from the “witness” needing an apology from some) sorry but that’s were I have my doubts, if he was doing it as a test, why take his wife and child with him and risk them? Couldn’t he of simply drove himself as the test and if the comeback is his wife may of needed to keep an eye on him, why not leave the kid with the cousins?
As for other allegations about the other trip, again a statement released yesterday would of stopped them in their tracks.
Hindsight is a wonderful thing and now it’s obvious he didn’t need to go to Durham, but at the time he was a “rabbit caught in the headlights” and made what he believed (and I believe him) to be a legal decision.
Hopefully it will fizzle out now and we can focus on the crisis.
Made a fair point about security concerns on his home, but that applies to all MP’s, Celebrities and others in the public eye.
Genuinely believe his reasons for driving to Durham, but took it more as a father/husband in panic mode and looking for the “legal” reason to be able to do it rather than him thinking straight and I can understand it.
Barnard Castle trip, (apart from the “witness” needing an apology from some) sorry but that’s were I have my doubts, if he was doing it as a test, why take his wife and child with him and risk them? Couldn’t he of simply drove himself as the test and if the comeback is his wife may of needed to keep an eye on him, why not leave the kid with the cousins?
As for other allegations about the other trip, again a statement released yesterday would of stopped them in their tracks.
Hindsight is a wonderful thing and now it’s obvious he didn’t need to go to Durham, but at the time he was a “rabbit caught in the headlights” and made what he believed (and I believe him) to be a legal decision.
Hopefully it will fizzle out now and we can focus on the crisis.
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They went in an ambulance, he went to pick them up.
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Can you prove they lied or were they given false information they believed.
This is the first time we’ve heard his side.
MegaSteve
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Think everybody and mates has been piling in feet first condemning the "morons" (hate that word) who chose knowingly/foolishly to not do the right thing... Yet, the game now seems to be how many reasons can be found to excuse someone who is in a position to have known better...
rudebhoy
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That's correct, forgot that detail, but the 2nd point still stands, why did DC who was meant to be self isolating, drive to the hospital instead of getting a family member to do that?
AmandaJR
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Of course not. Surely their responsibility is to verify information before printing it as fact.
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