Coronavirus - political views - supporting or otherwise...

[Imurg]

With my backside firmly on the fence when it comes to political shenanigans I do find it mildly amusing that people are suddenly finding the lockdown rules so clear yet a month ago they were so confusing and vague.......

 

[SocketRocket]

I'm no political expert but I feel this is the moment which the government lost what confidence it had stored up from the great British public regarding dealing with the Covid crisis. Believe me, I have tried trusting them. I'm sure some Labour supporters will be happy that the government seemingly is becoming increasing out of its depth as it is a political opportunity for them. But as a non Tory voter myself, to be honest this does scare me a bit as any government that does not command the confidence of the majority of the nation in times of crisis is a liability. And as can be seen from a few other countries, political incompetence and stupidity does lead directly to more deaths.

I see. All the support to business, furloughing workers, helping self employed, supporting the NHS , increasing testing and so on means nothing to you because a Government Political Advisor decided in his opinion he wanted to move his young child to a place he felt was safe, be it right or wrong. I think the majority of people will see this for what it is and move on from it.

 

[ColchesterFC]

Just been reading some of the tweets by Conservative MPs supporting what Cummings did. It's interesting that almost all of them use very similar language...."entirely right", "obviously reasonable", "justifiable and reasonable", "inappropriate to politicise" etc. Someone more cynical than me might think that they had been told what to tweet.

 

[Deleted member 16999]

With my backside firmly on the fence when it comes to political shenanigans I do find it mildly amusing that people are suddenly finding the lockdown rules so clear yet a month ago they were so confusing and vague.......

Surely we were told a month ago that the rules were so clear there wasn’t an issue, it looks like they weren’t and those of us who were denied the right to attend a brothers funeral or how long we could exercise for were right all along.

 

[drdel]

So one family of 3 travels in a private vehicle and stays in isolation in a seperate house for the recommended time: number of people outside the family exposed. Nil I'd suggest.

Gang of 10-15 reporters and photographers clamour to get story of the terribly risky trip and consequential transmission of the virus, but do not SD.

Media and Golf Forum outraged, general public not so fussed. IMO, of course.

 

[Deleted member 16999]

So one family of 3 travels in a private vehicle and stays in isolation in a seperate house for the recommended time: number of people outside the family exposed. Nil I'd suggest.

Gang of 10-15 reporters and photographers clamour to get story of the terribly risky trip and consequential transmission of the virus, but do not SD.

Media and Golf Forum outraged, general public not so fussed. IMO, of course.

The behaviour of the media has been slated time and time again on here, including the worlds press outside St Thomas’s when boris was in hospital.

There is no justifiable reason for the journey he and his wife took, what about the risk if they’d of had an accident? What about exposing the vulnerable grandparents to the virus? What about the clear rules to not leave the house for 14 days? What about the lies she’s told in the articles she’s written? What about the fact the timelines don’t match? What about the Police being called liars.

Those are just the immediate questions.

 

[PaulS]

I’m not sure why anyone attempts to justify his actions

He clearly broke the governments own lockdown restrictions just like others have. I can’t go 2 miles to go into my parents house yet he drove 100’s of miles with symptoms.

As for the general public not being fussed - suggest reading social media to see that’s very much nowhere near the truth

 

[Jimaroid]

Yougov survey reports 68% adults believe Cummings broke Lockdown rules and 52% believe he should resign.

Totally fits with the opinion that 99% of the public are not fussed.

 

[drdel]

At this rate the NHS will not worry about ICU capacity for Covid19 but the need for capacity for Golf Forum members with heart attacks caused by pseudo-outrage.

 

[SwingsitlikeHogan]

I was simply replying to SILH, you're taking it out of context and just creating repetition.

I am referring to what many have had to do or not do, despite what emotions and common sense might suggest. The rules said don’t do and so we didn‘t do. Simple.

 

[Deleted member 16999]

At this rate the NHS will not worry about ICU capacity for Covid19 but the need for capacity for Golf Forum members with heart attacks caused by pseudo-outrage.

Hilarious! We look forward to the next time you tory apologists take the moral high ground.

 

[rudebhoy]

The behaviour of the media has been slated time and time again on here, including the worlds press outside St Thomas’s when boris was in hospital.

There is no justifiable reason for the journey he and his wife took, what about the risk if they’d of had an accident? What about exposing the vulnerable grandparents to the virus? What about the clear rules to not leave the house for 14 days? What about the lies she’s told in the articles she’s written? What about the fact the timelines don’t match? What about the Police being called liars.

Those are just the immediate questions.

How many stops for petrol or toilet breaks did they make? Very unlikely a 4 year old could make it through a 5 hour car drive without needing a pee, never mind a couple of middle-aged parents.

 

[drdel]

Hilarious! We look forward to the next time you tory apologists take the moral high ground.

Ain't no Conservative, but don't let me spoil your fun.

 

[Deleted member 16999]

How many stops for petrol or toilets breaks did they make? Very unlikely a 4 year old could make it through a 5 hour car drive without needing a pee, never mind a couple of middle-aged parents.

For the benefit of the pedants, they could of took steps to sort that in the car as they travelled and had a full tank before they left.

It’s more what state of health were they both in as her story contradicts his and the governments.

 

[Deleted member 16999]

Ain't no Conservative, but don't let me spoil your fun.

Said tory apologist not tory voter.

 

[pendodave]

Hate to say it, but I think we need Cummings in place for the next couple of months. Hang him after that.
In our current situation, it's no longer the virus that's the issue, it's the economic abyss that lockdown is sending us into. I sense (!) that Cummings has known this all along , and that without his 'guidance', the bunch of lightweights (not exactly the brains trust) floundering around at the moment will be no use whatsoever in sorting things out.
Not a moral judgement, but a practical one.

 

[Deleted member 16999]

After Cabinet Ministers spending all day backing him and people playing it down, let’s hope this isn’t true or they are all going to be very embarrassed.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1264263470226329602

 

[SocketRocket]

Yougov survey reports 68% adults believe Cummings broke Lockdown rules and 52% believe he should resign.

Totally fits with the opinion that 99% of the public are not fussed.

I wonder how many people that poll was based on and what their demographic was. Probably mainly frothed up anti Tory Golf Forumers ?

 

[Deleted member 16999]

Charming. I'll take what you said at face value then, which speaks volumes.

 

[HomerJSimpson]

Think its getting harder for the Tory powers that be to defend the actions if its a repeated offence. Wait and see what comes out but it doesn't look good