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Coronavirus - how is it/has it affected you?

Don’t know if it’s been reported in the U.K. but there’s a number of hospitalised patients in northern Spain who have both delta and omicron simultaneously.

Numbers locally are sky rocketing. For months it’s been zero or just a few a week/day. Seeing numbers like 72 new cases and 12 deaths is worrying.
Delta cases have been dropping fast in the UK in recent days.
 
I came across this on Sky news.
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Symptoms are starting v early w Omicron (for a number of reasons I’ve discussed) This means that there is a chance the virus isnt yet growing in the nose when you first test Virus may start further down. Throat swab + nasal may improve chances a swab picks up virus.


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Prof Jennifer L. Rohn

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Well, there it is. Today, with the “wrong” (i.e. cold) symptoms and after a string of negative LFTs, I finally took Twitter advice and swabbed my throat as well as my nose (no mean feat with that diddly stick). If you think you might have COVID, consider adding the throat sample
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Hmm every day is a school day with this COVID ?
 
No restrictions for NYE in England! Good news, can plough ahead with plans as we’ve got friends staying at ours.
Quite amazing, but encouraging. I'd have put money on restrictions being announced today, coming in tomorrow. Even the care home my MiL is in had word to expect an announcement today of things coming in. Hopefully the numbers they are seeing are not translating into hospital numbers, hence carry on as before.
 
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The other countries have some level of restrictions in place - lots of data out there and I guess there is always some that can be used to paint the negative and other sets that can be used to show it’s not as bad as portrayed
 
Quite amazing, but encouraging. I'd have put money on restrictions being announced today, coming in tomorrow. Even the care home my MiL is in had word to expect an announcement today of things coming in. Hopefully the numbers they are seeing are not translating into hospital numbers, hence carry on as before.

Again, I feel quite sure we would be seeing restrictions being imposed if the science supported the doom and gloom being peddled a fortnight ago in the press/media. This has to be interpreted as good news.
 
Working it's way through my 2 nieces families, fortunately not too bad

Ditto... Had my positive result back on Christmas day. Honestly I've had worse hangovers..... Only thing I'm worried about is having 2 clear lateral flow tests before I Saturday as I'm due to play golf
 
Again, I feel quite sure we would be seeing restrictions being imposed if the science supported the doom and gloom being peddled a fortnight ago in the press/media. This has to be interpreted as good news.
Your ‘doom and gloom’ is the scientists ‘reasonable worse case scenario’ - scientists tend to focus on ‘fact’ rather than ‘feelings’’…with RWCS being what much of health policy has always been based upon. It appears to me that the policy in respect of NYE is tending more towards ’feelings’ rather than ‘fact’. So be that gamble.
 
Your ‘doom and gloom’ is the scientists ‘reasonable worse case scenario’ - scientists tend to focus on ‘fact’ rather than ‘feelings’’…with RWCS being what much of health policy has always been based upon. It appears to me that the policy in respect of NYE is tending more towards ’feelings’ rather than ‘fact’. So be that gamble.
I’ll regret asking this

But which “facts” are you talking about

And please stick to facts
 
Again, I feel quite sure we would be seeing restrictions being imposed if the science supported the doom and gloom being peddled a fortnight ago in the press/media. This has to be interpreted as good news.

Or the decision is being made for political reasons, which we can't discuss. Three of the four home nations have looked at the same data and introduced further restrictions. I just hope that we're right and they're wrong, but only time will tell.
 
Your ‘doom and gloom’ is the scientists ‘reasonable worse case scenario’ - scientists tend to focus on ‘fact’ rather than ‘feelings’’…with RWCS being what much of health policy has always been based upon. It appears to me that the policy in respect of NYE is tending more towards ’feelings’ rather than ‘fact’. So be that gamble.

I’m well aware of that, thanks. Thanks for regurgitating the comments of others, though. It’s bad enough being lectured on here by those who actually know their subject matter, so I’d ask you kindly to refrain from trying it yourself.

And please also try for once to make a passing attempt at concealing your contempt for those currently in power. Do you honestly think they have refrained from imposing restrictions based upon a whim, rather than scientific data? Really? It strikes me, given many reports regarding hospitalisations and severity of illness, that if anyone has acted on a whim it is those north and west of the border. Those in this country appear to be applying a dose of common sense.
 
Again, I feel quite sure we would be seeing restrictions being imposed if the science supported the doom and gloom being peddled a fortnight ago in the press/media. This has to be interpreted as good news.
My thoughts are that further restrictions in England are being held back until after NYE.
Hospital admissions are still going up - as per the numbers in this chart. https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/details/healthcare
 
Or the decision is being made for political reasons, which we can't discuss. Three of the four home nations have looked at the same data and introduced further restrictions. I just hope that we're right and they're wrong, but only time will tell.

I’ve said it previously, but given the widespread criticism which followed our reluctance to act previously, I am quite sure if action was required by the data now it would have been swift.
 
But not at the levels requiring a lockdown, as even NHS leaders themselves have accepted today.

Agreed, lockdowns and restrictions should be a last port of call however people seem to now want them based on the possibility of issues. The data is there and as much as people dislike the present party maybe they are actually following the science. There just isn’t enough there you justify further restrictions.
 
But not at the levels requiring a lockdown, as even NHS leaders themselves have accepted today.
Maybe not, though I haven't seen anything wrt NHS opinions. Got a link?.
I've seen 'further restrictions not currently justified', but that could easily change - depending on numbers/advice.
 
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Some mention on the news of another backbench revolt had more restrictions been imposed. I don't think we'll see how this has all played out until after the NYE festivities and we get back to work.

I saw bbc 6 o'clock news. Appalling how for all other regions of the UK they only stated numbers and the restrictions in force.

BUT for England, plenty of comment of THEIR opinion of Boris' motivations and possible political implications.

I wonder how they get away with it? Its a if they have an agenda:-)
 
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