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Coronavirus - how is it/has it affected you?

IanM said:
I saw bbc 6 o'clock news. Appalling how for all other regions of the UK they only stated numbers and the restrictions in force.

BUT for England, plenty of comment of THEIR opinion of Boris' motivations and possible political implications.

I wonder how they get away with it? Its a if they have an agenda:)
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Agreed. However to delve too far is getting into a dangerous area. I merely quoted what was reported. Anything else I'll leave to the others to dissect
 
HomerJSimpson said:
Agreed. However to delve too far is getting into a dangerous area. I merely quoted what was reported. Anything else I'll leave to the others to dissect
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And you were correct. Analysis of alleged motivation re Boris. Nothing of the kind for other areas. That is just stating a fact


I am certain why this is, but comment is outside scope of this forum.:-)
 
Foxholer said:
Maybe not, though I haven't seen anything wrt NHS opinions. Got a link?.
I've seen 'further restrictions not currently justified', but that could easily change - depending on numbers/advice.
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I saw an NHS Chief Executive being interviewed and he said that, whilst hospital figures are up, they are some way short of where they were in January, and as such the numbers required for a lockdown.

I’m not denying we may see further restrictions. Or that managing Omicron is a balancing act. But two years into this pandemic I would hope we have learnt, from bitter past experience, that the timing has to be right.

EDIT: The Chief Executive I saw is the subject of D-S’s link.
 
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road2ruin said:
Balanced and objective rather than the OTT rhetoric we constantly hear from the MSM etc. Not to say that things might not change for the worse (or better) but good to hear from someone on the inside not trying to panic everyone.
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Absolutely. And hopefully the sort of data the decision makers are basing their decisions on.

Not just acting on their “feelings”.

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D-S said:
Here’s a link
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Thanks for that. Looks like finally something useful on Twitter at last - as I believe an earlier, equally informative brief was posted a while ago.
Still doesn't seem to coincide with BB's more positive view (wishful thinking?) but sort of positive - at least compared to last Jan! NHS Covid driven staff absences is a bit concerning, especially as they've been under immense pressure for over a year now!
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Billysboots said:
I saw an NHS Chief Executive being interviewed and he said that, whilst hospital figures are up, they are some way short of where they were in January, and as such the numbers required for a lockdown.

I’m not denying we may see further restrictions. Or that managing Omicron is a balancing act. But two years into this pandemic I would hope we have learnt, from bitter past experience, that the timing has to be right.

EDIT: The Chief Executive I saw is the subject of D-S’s link.
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Your interpretation seems 'wishful thinking' to me. Though I hope it turns out to be correct.
 
Liverpoolphil said:
It’s quite clear it seems that positive thinking in regards Covid is not allowed and gets shouted down very quickly
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Certainly not by me! Though if wanting to see data/evidence (as opposed someone's interpretation of it) is deemed 'shouting down', I'm happy to plead guilty!
Btw. Re the bold bit...You seem confused/make you mind up!
 
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Back on track after a week and a bit with covid, although according to the Swedish official numbers I’ve never had covid as the 2 PCR-tests I did both were negative.

Reading on the uk government website regarding faulty LFT tests, the chance of getting a false positive (as opposed to a false negative) is less than 1 in 1,000. I’ve done 5 LFT tests all showing positive, so the chance of all of them being incorrect is 1 in 100 million billions.
 
road2ruin said:
Balanced and objective rather than the OTT rhetoric we constantly hear from the MSM etc. Not to say that things might not change for the worse (or better) but good to hear from someone on the inside not trying to panic everyone.
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That tweet references the CEO of NHS Employers. He is responsible for staffing in the NHS, and has no role in any aspect of clinical care. NHS staffing, under his watch, has been at all-time crisis levels, with 60% of doctors and nurses considering leaving. That staffing crisis is a big part of the current pressures. He is entitled to his opinion, but I would place more credence on the views of others closer to the action.
 
Liverpoolphil said:
It’s quite clear it seems that positive thinking in regards Covid is not allowed and gets shouted down very quickly
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Phil, I find it really depressing that, rather than viewing the ongoing absence of more punishing restrictions as a positive, some here seem absolutely hell bent on believing everything is the result of an agenda.

Surely to goodness the fact that we still largely have our freedom, despite shocking numbers of new infections and continuing deaths and hospital admissions, is excellent news. None of us are party to the behind closed doors briefings, but some simply cannot accept that, just maybe, the decision makers are being told that we don’t need further restrictions at the moment. Perish the thought the science might just be guiding us down this path.

Everywhere there are conspiracy theories. It’s almost as though some would rather see us denied our liberty for ever more. Restrict us by all means if there is no alternative. I’d be fully supportive. But not simply because others elsewhere might just have acted in haste because of their own political agenda.

Maybe it’s those elsewhere who are making political decisions whilst the decision makers here in England are following the science. Wouldn’t that be a turn up for the books?

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Foxholer said:
Certainly not by me! Though if wanting to see data/evidence (as opposed someone's interpretation of it) is deemed 'shouting down', I'm happy to plead guilty!
Btw. Re the bold bit...You seem confused/make you mind up!
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So I’m not allowed to be encouraged by the fact I’m still allowed to shop and drink in a pub?

If you preferred that I just lock myself away and cry into my pillow at the numbers, you’ll have a long wait, I’m afraid!
 
Now that the website is working properly, I've completed the Test & Trace and told that if I choose to self isolate rather than take LFT's my isolation period ends on the 29th of December, which ties in with Mrs. BiM's positive LFT. Mrs. BiM herself however has had her Covid pass disabled to the 31st of December, in keeping with her positive PCR result. Why the disparity?
 
Billysboots said:
Phil, I find it really depressing that, rather than viewing the ongoing absence of more punishing restrictions as a positive, some here seem absolutely hell bent on believing everything is the result of an agenda.

Surely to goodness the fact that we still largely have our freedom, despite shocking numbers of new infections and continuing deaths and hospital admissions, is excellent news. None of us are party to the behind closed doors briefings, but some simply cannot accept that, just maybe, the decision makers are being told that we don’t need further restrictions at the moment. Perish the thought the science might just be guiding us down this path.

Everywhere there are conspiracy theories. It’s almost as though some would rather see us denied our liberty for ever more. Restrict us by all means if there is no alternative. I’d be fully supportive. But not simply because others elsewhere might just have acted in haste because of their own political agenda.

Maybe it’s those elsewhere who are making political decisions whilst the decision makers here in England are following the science. Wouldn’t that be a turn up for the books?

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The SAGE minutes are published. You can read them for yourself. You can also find Chris Whitty and Patrick Vallance’s comments. It is fairly clear they all want more caution but Tory backbenchers are calling the shots.

Your choice of language “punishing”, “denied our liberty” and other inflammatory and hysterical nonsense makes it pretty clear you are not considering the matter with any objectivity.
 
Ethan said:
The SAGE minutes are published. You can read them for yourself. You can also find Chris Whitty and Patrick Vallance’s comments. It is fairly clear they all want more caution but Tory backbenchers are calling the shots.

Your choice of language “punishing”, “denied our liberty” and other inflammatory and hysterical nonsense makes it pretty clear you are not considering the matter with any objectivity.
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Give it a rest, please. Your negativity, arrogance and dismissiveness of anyone who ever sees a ray of light amongst all the gloom is beyond boring.

You might be the expert. That doesn’t mean the rest of us are denied an opinion. If we were, this thread would barely have made it beyond the first page.

You are absolutely insufferable.
 
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