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Coronavirus - how is it/has it affected you?

Tashyboy said:
That’s correct. But your initial post was putting restrictions in place for the omicron virus is a waste of time. Omicron is not the only virus out there, in fact it has just said on the news that some of the people in hospital have Delta so how exactly do you put restrictions in place for one variant but not the other ?
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The whole change in attitude comes from the emergence of the Omicron variant and has nothing to do with the Delta.

I’d not bother to restrict at all. Get on with life.
 
IainP said:
Not jumping into the back n forth, for a slight change of tack, some other stats from the US
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/59757395
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Wow it’s really become political in the states. Republican anti vax, Democrats pro vax. How strange!

Can’t say it’s that sort of divide over here. Mind you I saw a very funny thing on FB saying how Boris had actually United the country in a way he could never imagine but it would be far to political. ?
 
Kaz said:
Thought I was stating the obvious but lets keep it general enough to stay within the rules....

We need people to follow the public health guidelines but people don't trust politicians because they tend to be "economical with the truth". We don't follow them blindly. Hence the message has to come from or at least be supported by experts.
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You honestly think people will follow guidelines if they’re told they’ll be 1m cases a day with 20,000 deaths etc etc? Had the info been moderated slightly and given out by Chris Whitty etc you’d have got more but in. Instead people see the name ‘Ferguson’ and stop listening immediately, they just switch off.
 
Triple jabbed.... Lateral flow test this morning and I'm positive, been waiting for PCR results to come back for 3 days now as I suspected I had it.

Merry Christmas X
 
Liverpoolphil said:
It’s not as black and white - there are a lot of variables

Right now there are more people who are hospitalised who are also vaccinated

I believe it was about 70%

The level of people vaccinated in the uk I believe is the second highest ( per person ) in the world - yet the cases continue to rise. Those cases aren’t rising because enough people don’t have the vaccine.
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There are some claims being made here , contrary to what I have seen some Drs and scientists saying on tv.
70% hospitalised are vaccinated? . Hobbit saying two thirds of hospitalised are vaccinated? Where is the source for this?
If true, the vaccine isn't working as claimed. But I believe it is.
I must say I was a little stunned when I read these claims by Phil and Hobbit.
 
Swinglowandslow said:
There are some claims being made here , contrary to what I have seen some Drs and scientists saying on tv.
70% hospitalised are vaccinated? . Hobbit saying two thirds of hospitalised are vaccinated? Where is the source for this?
If true, the vaccine isn't working as claimed. But I believe it is.
I must say I was a little stunned when I read these claims by Phil and Hobbit.
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The vaccines offer substantial protection but they’re not perfect and some will still be admitted, given the vast majority of the population are jabbed it probably still stands to reason that they’ll make up a considerable number of admissions.
 
Swinglowandslow said:
There are some claims being made here , contrary to what I have seen some Drs and scientists saying on tv.
70% hospitalised are vaccinated? . Hobbit saying two thirds of hospitalised are vaccinated? Where is the source for this?
If true, the vaccine isn't working as claimed. But I believe it is.
I must say I was a little stunned when I read these claims by Phil and Hobbit.
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I was reading yesterday on fact checker that 36% of hospitalisations are unvaccinated with the other 64% being jabbed people..... But as with all stats I take it with a pinch of salt, as no matter what they're reporting there is always an angle.
 
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London Hospital data, despite many more beds being occupied due to Covid the number on Mechanical Ventilator remains constant if not slightly dropping.
 
Swinglowandslow said:
There are some claims being made here , contrary to what I have seen some Drs and scientists saying on tv.
70% hospitalised are vaccinated? . Hobbit saying two thirds of hospitalised are vaccinated? Where is the source for this?
If true, the vaccine isn't working as claimed. But I believe it is.
I must say I was a little stunned when I read these claims by Phil and Hobbit.
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I‘ve not hunted out the link but if you read my reply to Bob it’s a numbers thing. Picking daft numbers to illustrate the point, 0.5%(vaccinated) of 60,000,000 is a large number compared to 40%(unvaccinated) of 10,000. In effect, the vaccine has ‘saved’ 39.5%, ergo it’s worked. A bit of a simplistic reply but… it’s Christmas Day.
 
Swinglowandslow said:
There are some claims being made here , contrary to what I have seen some Drs and scientists saying on tv.
70% hospitalised are vaccinated? . Hobbit saying two thirds of hospitalised are vaccinated? Where is the source for this?
If true, the vaccine isn't working as claimed. But I believe it is.
I must say I was a little stunned when I read these claims by Phil and Hobbit.
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It's just simple base rate fallacy and poor understanding of the data.
 
Imurg said:
Small..but it's still there....
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That's exactly it. I think we're being programmed to think that by being triple jabbed it nullifies catching/transmitting the virus and that simply isn't the case.... No jab is ever perfect and it only improves the chances of spreading less and having lesser symptoms, but there's plenty of proof just with a quick Google that jabbed households are spreading it amongst eachother.
 
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