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Coronavirus - how is it/has it affected you?

fenwayrich said:
I simply cannot understand why, walking round a shop, masks are compulsory, whereas it is permissible to do exactly the same thing in a pub or restaurant without one.
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Restaurants and pubs now mostly have table service, and tables are supposed to be spaced a bit. Waiters/waitresses/servers should be masked, although I am sure they are not all doing so. That reduces the spreading potential somewhat compared to a shop where people are moving around closer to one another a lot more. There is still a risk in both places, likely a bit greater in the pub/restaurant. That subject which must not be mentioned also plays a part.
 
road2ruin said:
And I think that is potentially the direction of travel although if Omicron ends up being very mild but also very transmissible regardless of vaccination status then passports might be a waste of time. I just don't believe that any Government should force people into any vaccination especially for something that (fortunately) for the vast majority is very mild and the vaccination could (however small) pose more of a risk than severe illness from the virus.
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I find it odd that some people kick off when people say they aren't wearing masks, but find it ok that some people shouldn't have to get vaccinated.
 
Crazyface said:
I find it odd that some people kick off when people say they aren't wearing masks, but find it ok that some people shouldn't have to get vaccinated.
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Not sure if this is aimed at me however you can be pro (or anti) mask and still feel that mandatory vaccinations are wrong.
 
Ethan said:
Restaurants and pubs now mostly have table service, and tables are supposed to be spaced a bit. Waiters/waitresses/servers should be masked, although I am sure they are not all doing so. That reduces the spreading potential somewhat compared to a shop where people are moving around closer to one another a lot more. There is still a risk in both places, likely a bit greater in the pub/restaurant. That subject which must not be mentioned also plays a part.
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Around here I do not know of a single pub which is table service, restaurants are as they always have been.
Since the recent ruling masks in retail have been at 100% - including staff ( I always thought it strange when they didn’t but customers were advised to)
 
D-S said:
Around here I do not know of a single pub which is table service, restaurants are as they always have been.
Since the recent ruling masks in retail have been at 100% - including staff ( I always thought it strange when they didn’t but customers were advised to)
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No, agree, table service at pubs disappeared in our area as soon as the restrictions were relaxed.
 
road2ruin said:
Having seen the briefing I've no reason to change my opinion that it was anything other than a sham, rushed through to try and change the front pages of the papers from one story to another. We know that the scientists have been calling for tougher restrictions, that's fine as they come from that side of the argument however we were told that it'd be a couple of weeks before decisions were made and then suddenly, on a day of terrible news for the Government, we have an important briefing to tell us we're going to Plan B. The stats that Whitty showed didn't even particularly do much to prove that there was a basis for the change IMO, not enough in the data to make such a big decision. They showed a chart of the SA cases even though we know that they're vaccination rate is around 20% so of course it is going to take off. I didn't see that he showed a chart on hospitalisations and deaths though? The ones I have seen in SA show that they are largely flat at the moment so probably doesn't suit the narrative. That's not to say that things won't change but after all the guff about following the data this decision really doesn't make any particular sense. BTW, I have no personal stake in these restrictions, they don't affect me on a personal or business level so have no skin in the game so to speak.
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In my opinion, they took the right steps, but for the wrong reasons. Still, the virus doesn't know that.

We should never have relaxed mask wearing, and there should have been Covid passports in place long ago. Better late than never, but even better in good time than late.

On the data, the problem is that if you wait for good local data, it is too late. Especially if you wait for hospitalisations and deaths which lag case identification by a week or more, which is 2 or 3 doubling times at current transmissibility.
 
Ethan said:
It needs to come back.
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Which will completely ruin pubs due to the additional staff required and the reduced number of customers allowed in the premises. I’ve seen no additional financial support being offered for hospitality and this is one of their busiest times of year.
 
Crazyface said:
I find it odd that some people kick off when people say they aren't wearing masks, but find it ok that some people shouldn't have to get vaccinated.
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And I find it very hard to politely find a word to describe the behaviour of someone who makes a point of not wearing a mask, against all the evidence that it aids the reduction in transmission. Especially when it costs nothing to do so.
Wearing a mask also helps the wearer not to pick up the virus.
Obstinacy can sometimes be amusing, but here it is being dangerous.
 
chrisd said:
Well, I for one am not going to play in a shotgun Christmas comp where it's necessary to go into the clubhouse for the prize giving as everyone gives a prize, and everyone gets one, according to their finishing position.

Got Covid written all over it as a great Crissy present ??
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Exactly the reason I didn't go to ours, which was followed by a meal, all sat on long tables.?
 
road2ruin said:
Which will completely ruin pubs due to the additional staff required and the reduced number of customers allowed in the premises. I’ve seen no additional financial support being offered for hospitality and this is one of their busiest times of year.
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That is too bad. Perhaps you-know-who should have put stronger measures in place earlier to dampen community levels sooner to provide more headroom for Christmas.
 
IanM said:
To summarise the narrative...

Increase measures = Bad thing
Decrease measures = Bad thing
All measures always too early/too late/wrong motives

There you go. Saves lots of posting/reading :ROFLMAO:
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That is pretty much it. Titrating public policy measures to the minimum level needed to maximally suppress cases is impossible.
 
chrisd said:
Well, I for one am not going to play in a shotgun Christmas comp where it's necessary to go into the clubhouse for the prize giving as everyone gives a prize, and everyone gets one, according to their finishing position.

Got Covid written all over it as a great Crissy present ??
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It was our Captain's drive in two weeks ago and cases seem to have gone through the roof at the club. Clubhouse closed all last weekend. I certainly wouldn't attend an indoors function in the current situation either.
 
chrisd said:
Well, I for one am not going to play in a shotgun Christmas comp where it's necessary to go into the clubhouse for the prize giving as everyone gives a prize, and everyone gets one, according to their finishing position.

Got Covid written all over it as a great Crissy present ??
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Yep. There's a shotgun start Am/Am at my place tomorrow with a meal afterwards. Some tees have 2 groups of 4 at the start. That means about 60 to 70 blokes all in the clubhouse at the same time. Potential super-spreader event. I'm staying well away from such things this winter. Had my booster on 23rd of Oct.
 
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