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Coronavirus - how is it/has it affected you?

I know the cases look bad but a bit more positively……

December-23, 2020
• Cases 42,185
• Deaths 582

July-14, 2021
• Cases 42,302
• Deaths 49

The vaccines work.
 
ColchesterFC said:
Before the pandemic nightclubs were making these decisions every day of the week. Some won't let you in wearing trainers. Others won't let you in wearing shorts. I don't see why there would be chaos outside. A couple of big signs saying "No mask, no entry" would let everyone know the rules. It's up to the individual establishment to make a decision on what their dress code is and if that includes masks then the public have a simple choice to make, either they abide by it or they go somewhere else. Not that it will affect me, my clubbing days are long gone.
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I don’t know how old you are but nightclubs are for busting some shapes out, copious amounts of trips to the toilet, snogging and dragging whatever you can home. It couldn’t of been much different when you last went surely?
Not much point going to a nightclub with a mask on. Not much point in them being open or financially viable as there won’t be much interest.
 
backwoodsman said:
Bri. Not doubting what you say - but I've a mate who lives in Valencia - age 59 - who's been double jabbed (And hoping, but totally unsure, that he'll be able to make a trip here for a golfing trip in September).? Any idea how or why he'll have been jabbed? Are the Regions doing things differently to each other? (I feel a message to him coming on ...)
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Many of our friends who have gone down the same route as us have been double jabbed. I managed to speak to the Health Board admin office this afternoon, with the aid of a translator. Our paperwork never reached them from Turre. They said that it takes 2 days to receive an appointment after they get the paperwork. With the contacts we’ve got in the last few days I hope we can resolve this very soon.
 
Jamesbrown said:
I don’t know how old you are but nightclubs are for busting some shapes out, copious amounts of trips to the toilet, snogging and dragging whatever you can home. It couldn’t of been much different when you last went surely?
Not much point going to a nightclub with a mask on. Not much point in them being open or financially viable as there won’t be much interest.
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This is busting some shapes out to most of the forum members ?
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SaintHacker said:
So whats the alternative? We stay locked down, forever. 3 lockdowns and its coming back again. Every time we ease restrictions it flares back up. Vaccines are saving lives and keeping people out of hospital, but its never going away.
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There are levels of lockdown. IMO removing all restrictions when the virus is ramping and all adults have not had chance to be vaccinated is not a good plan. The current restrictions are not that severe for most people. There are a lot of young people very ill in hospital with Covid and no doubt a great deal at home very ill with it, at the minimum keep mask wearing and social distancing in risk areas to try and dampen the explosion we will see after next week.
 
Why we can't continue to have to wear face masks and socially distance in shops and on public transport by law is mind-boggling to me.

What kind of person would object to that with the increase in infection rates we are seeing?
 
ExRabbit said:
What kind of person would object to that with the increase in infection rates we are seeing?
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It has been widely reported that the Govt wanted to keep mandatory masks but did not have the support of backbenchers and did not want to have to rely on opposition support to pass it. I think we can therefore assume the scientific advice they had received did not include doing away with mandatory masks.

So, in answer to your question, what sort of person ..., the answer is a person like John Redwood. And some here, obviously.
 
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Ethan said:
The Academy of Medical Sciences has published a report on the likely resurgence this winter of flu and RSV, suppressed last winter, along with their new friend Covid. See if you can learn to live with this: Preparing for a challenging winter
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I know I'm probably missing something obvious but this paragraph.....

1. A large resurgence of COVID-19 nationally, with local or regional epidemics. Modelling of our reasonable worst-case scenario – in which the effective reproduction rate of SARS-CoV-2 (Rt) rises to 1.7 from September 2020 onwards – suggests a peak in hospital admissions and deaths in January/February 2021 of a similar magnitude to that of the first wave in spring 2020, coinciding with a period of peak demand on the NHS. We are already seeing local outbreaks. The modelling estimates 119,900 (95% CrI 24,500 - 251,000) hospital deaths between September 2020 and June 2021, over double the number that occurred during the first wave in spring 2020.

On the basis that all of the adult population (who want it) have had both jabs by September (which I think the aim is) and then there is an Autumn booster campaign for the most vulnerable how is there going to be hospital admissions and deaths at a similar level to those we saw in March/April of last year? I know that the vaccine doesn't work on all however if those figures are correct what was the point in the whole vaccination thing anyway if the hospital admissions/deaths are the same as the unvaccinated wave last year? Surely with the entire adult population being vaccinated the figures cannot be that high can they?
 
road2ruin said:
I know I'm probably missing something obvious but this paragraph.....

1. A large resurgence of COVID-19 nationally, with local or regional epidemics. Modelling of our reasonable worst-case scenario – in which the effective reproduction rate of SARS-CoV-2 (Rt) rises to 1.7 from September 2020 onwards – suggests a peak in hospital admissions and deaths in January/February 2021 of a similar magnitude to that of the first wave in spring 2020, coinciding with a period of peak demand on the NHS. We are already seeing local outbreaks. The modelling estimates 119,900 (95% CrI 24,500 - 251,000) hospital deaths between September 2020 and June 2021, over double the number that occurred during the first wave in spring 2020.

On the basis that all of the adult population (who want it) have had both jabs by September (which I think the aim is) and then there is an Autumn booster campaign for the most vulnerable how is there going to be hospital admissions and deaths at a similar level to those we saw in March/April of last year? I know that the vaccine doesn't work on all however if those figures are correct what was the point in the whole vaccination thing anyway if the hospital admissions/deaths are the same as the unvaccinated wave last year? Surely with the entire adult population being vaccinated the figures cannot be that high can they?
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The paper was issued on the 14.7.2020...........
 
road2ruin said:
I know I'm probably missing something obvious but this paragraph.....

1. A large resurgence of COVID-19 nationally, with local or regional epidemics. Modelling of our reasonable worst-case scenario – in which the effective reproduction rate of SARS-CoV-2 (Rt) rises to 1.7 from September 2020 onwards – suggests a peak in hospital admissions and deaths in January/February 2021 of a similar magnitude to that of the first wave in spring 2020, coinciding with a period of peak demand on the NHS. We are already seeing local outbreaks. The modelling estimates 119,900 (95% CrI 24,500 - 251,000) hospital deaths between September 2020 and June 2021, over double the number that occurred during the first wave in spring 2020.

On the basis that all of the adult population (who want it) have had both jabs by September (which I think the aim is) and then there is an Autumn booster campaign for the most vulnerable how is there going to be hospital admissions and deaths at a similar level to those we saw in March/April of last year? I know that the vaccine doesn't work on all however if those figures are correct what was the point in the whole vaccination thing anyway if the hospital admissions/deaths are the same as the unvaccinated wave last year? Surely with the entire adult population being vaccinated the figures cannot be that high can they?
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The point being made is that we are stopping all regulations next week but all adults have not been given the opportunity to be jabbed. Virus levels are spiraling upwards , hospitals are starting to struggle and are putting off more non Covid treatments. It just doesn't seem the best time to stop some of the protection rules.
 
Hobbit said:
Many of our friends who have gone down the same route as us have been double jabbed. I managed to speak to the Health Board admin office this afternoon, with the aid of a translator. Our paperwork never reached them from Turre. They said that it takes 2 days to receive an appointment after they get the paperwork. With the contacts we’ve got in the last few days I hope we can resolve this very soon.
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I'm sure they will sort it out for you both

I was in a relatively similar position in Italy - although they had the paperwork and they were organising an appointment
But as i could also access it in France - where they effectively were offering it to any nationality, if in the correct age group - we decided that I would go there - got it no problem J&J and Uefa green card etc

That also allowed me to spend some time with the Lass who's been there for most of the last 8 months for various reasons
 
Ethan said:
I linked to the wrong document.

This is a Telegraph report from today on the report, can't find the full document.
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so excess flu deaths is going to be another consequence of the lockdown

"Covid cases are expected to surge in the winter, and experts are also predicting an unprecedented spike in influenza and RSV (respiratory syncytial virus) infections due to a lack of natural immunity as a result of lockdowns throughout 2020 and 2021.
Sir Patrick Vallance, the Chief Scientific Adviser, commissioned the report which was spearheaded by Professor Sir Stephen Holgate, Medical Research Council clinical professor of immunopharmacology, and involved 29 leading experts.
The report projected flu deaths could reach 60,000 this winter in a worst-case scenario, more than twice as many as the record-breaking figures of the winter of 2017/2018."
 
PNWokingham said:
so excess flu deaths is going to be another consequence of the lockdown

"Covid cases are expected to surge in the winter, and experts are also predicting an unprecedented spike in influenza and RSV (respiratory syncytial virus) infections due to a lack of natural immunity as a result of lockdowns throughout 2020 and 2021.
Sir Patrick Vallance, the Chief Scientific Adviser, commissioned the report which was spearheaded by Professor Sir Stephen Holgate, Medical Research Council clinical professor of immunopharmacology, and involved 29 leading experts.
The report projected flu deaths could reach 60,000 this winter in a worst-case scenario, more than twice as many as the record-breaking figures of the winter of 2017/2018."
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Won't people having a flu jab keep a lid on it.
 
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