bobmac
Major Champion
On May 16th, 10 people died from Covid.
Then the restrictions were eased.
Yesterday, 8 people died from Covid.
Coronavirus - how is it/has it affected you?
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On May 16th, 10 people died from Covid.
Then the restrictions were eased.
Yesterday, 8 people died from Covid.
RichA
Well-known member
No worries. Everybody happy.
I figure the decision makers will be looking at all sorts of obscure data that doesn't necessarily get published. Movement of people between areas with higher infection and death rates; trends in infection and vaccination in countries that we're now seeing or soon likely to see more travel to and from; infection and hospitalisation amongst the as yet unvaccinated younger folks.
At risk of bashing the media again, they tend to publish what gets us arguing more than what will make us all well informed.
RichA
Well-known member
Mansfield on a Friday or Saturday night was never a great snapshot of western civilisation. ???????Me and Missis T went out for a socially distanced meal in Mansfield for the first time in 18 months week last Saturday. It is not surprising re younger people getting Covid from what we saw
I've left out some other fruit and veg based emojis so I don't get in trouble.
Tashyboy
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bobmac
Major Champion
The PM has always said he will be led by the data (and quite rightly so) so I won't be surprised if he announces a delay in the reopening date. But with around half a million people getting jabbed every day I feel happier when I do venture out to do my hunting and gathering
Tashyboy
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The pub i went in the social distancing was excellent, the biggest concern I saw was people queuing to get into pubs didn’t look good at all.
D
Deleted member 15344
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For the people that appear to be desperate for all restrictions to be removed in 7 days time - can someone list me what it is that it will allow them to do that they can’t now or is it more about personal freedom of just being allowed to do whatever they want
Someone at the club yesterday was ranting about the restrictions needing to end ASAP - his reason “sick of having to book a tee time”
Someone at the club yesterday was ranting about the restrictions needing to end ASAP - his reason “sick of having to book a tee time”
RichA
Well-known member
Cool. I wasn't suggesting you might have been looking for fisty or fruity action, by the way. ?
My old man and his pal are enjoying getting back out to some of those country pubs from Epperstone out towards the Trent for a meal and a pint. Says they're really quiet.
larmen
Head Pro
I guess for most people it is about the principle?
What I hear is about holidays, but other countries have as much to say it as we do, don’t they?
theoneandonly
Blackballed
RichA
Well-known member
I don't understand any of that nonsense, but I feel for the people whose careers and incomes have been on hold for 18 months. As much as I'm in favour of caution and enjoy commuting on a half empty train, I can see why they might be keen for normality to resume.
bobmac
Major Champion
That's exactly what I am talking about.
That graph shows the infection rate similar to the start of February when around 10m had been vaccinated.
Today, over 40m have been vaccinated.
There's no way there will be that many infections
Ethan
Money List Winner
Well, it should be obvious that hospitalised patients are younger than they were, as vaccination has worked down through the older age groups, and also that they are fitter and do better. In a way, that is not the issue. The issue is that the grumbling rates of infection, currently in fitter, younger people, increases the potential to turn into something nastier if a variant emerges, and it is probably really only a matter of time, which will affect older people.
Also, don't dismiss the non-fatal or non-ICU effects of Covid - long Covid and subclinical medium term organ damage are going to be a persisting problem. Good evidence that Covid causes kidney, liver, heart and brain effects which could be storing up a serious problem for the next few years.
bobmac
Major Champion
Does the ''good evidence'' tell us if long covid will affect the young and strong as much much as the old and frail?
The Dog.
Active member
I cannot understand what is happening in this country. America has ditched social distancing and masks and life is back to normal. 135000 people at the Indy 500 this month. Normal life has returned and the bodies of dead are not piling up in the streets. Our vaccine program is miles ahead of theirs yet we are still living with restrictions imposed by a small group of highly influential, risk averse medics and politicians. There is no case for these restrictions any longer and there hasn't been for some time.
I hope that my fellow Brits will start to stand up to this control freakery as of next Monday and ditch masks as a first step - all you have to say to anyone is that you are exempt. The country needs normality. The real health crisis is going to hit home very soon when the tsunami sized backlog of medical emergencies hits the NHS. Over 50,000 women walking around with undiagnosed breast cancer being a tiny tip of this particular iceberg.
Let's get on with it and for those who are still blinded by government induced fear and terrified to push back on this tyranny, go and hide behind the sofa until your masters say you're allowed out.
I hope that my fellow Brits will start to stand up to this control freakery as of next Monday and ditch masks as a first step - all you have to say to anyone is that you are exempt. The country needs normality. The real health crisis is going to hit home very soon when the tsunami sized backlog of medical emergencies hits the NHS. Over 50,000 women walking around with undiagnosed breast cancer being a tiny tip of this particular iceberg.
Let's get on with it and for those who are still blinded by government induced fear and terrified to push back on this tyranny, go and hide behind the sofa until your masters say you're allowed out.
D
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Sorry but what’s “nonsense” - it was a simple question
Some people appear to want the restrictions to end ASAP regardless of the situation and I just asked the question in regards what is it that they can’t do now because of restrictions that they really need to do or is it more about freedom
RichA
Well-known member
What an extremist load of old ?.
PhilTheFragger
Provider of Entertainment for the Golfing Gods 🙄
Just possibly the US doesn’t have the Delta variant in the same quantities that we do.
I think what you are suggesting is dangerous and wrong. I hear what you say re NHS lists and this need to be tackled urgently, but they won’t be able to start if the hospitals fill up with Covid patients.
I think what you are suggesting is dangerous and wrong. I hear what you say re NHS lists and this need to be tackled urgently, but they won’t be able to start if the hospitals fill up with Covid patients.
RichA
Well-known member
This bit...
Someone at the club yesterday was ranting about the restrictions needing to end ASAP - his reason “sick of having to book a tee time”
I was agreeing with you. Apologies - reading it back I can see how easily it could be misinterpreted.
road2ruin
Q-School Graduate
It's all modelling and rarely seems to have been right. Below is Sage's modelling for hospitalisations for the 11th June and they're not even close to reality....
