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Coronavirus - how is it/has it affected you?

Lord Tyrion said:
My MiL had a 2 week exchange with a Japanese family a good few years ago, part of a church thing. Diet is much healthier but they have a real aversion to milk and other calcium rich foods. Apparently they have a big problem with bone strength and related issues in later years. Nearly ideal but could do with a little tweak.
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High levels of lactose intolerance in Japan, so milk is not really part of their cultural diet.
 
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SwingsitlikeHogan said:
I fear that I heard a bit too much ‘we have to wait and see’ from the PM this morning. That’s not getting ahead of the curve...it’s playing catch up...

For instance he tells us that there is most likely going to be tougher restrictions and school closures and that most of us accept that likelihood - so why not just apply them now?
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I was going to respond and say coz Bojo is a plank and has lost the plot but realised it’s political so am saying nowt. ?
 
Ethan said:
High levels of lactose intolerance in Japan, so milk is not really part of their cultural diet.
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yup Ave had that in years gone by. It’s not nice suffering with Urticaria and walking around looking like a fat nutty professor
 
road2ruin said:
Another example yesterday of the MSM putting out scare stories which simply isn’t helpful. The BBC gave air time to a nursing matron (Laura Duffel) at Kings College London. She immediately caused panic by claiming that ‘her hospital has ‘a whole ward’ full of children with acute Covid and that her colleagues in other Trusts are in the same position.’ This was rapidly called out by numerous paediatricians across London as being completely untrue. They stopped short of calling her a liar.

My question is how the BBC can allow someone on to say something like this without doing a bit of fact checking first. They wouldn’t allow an out and out Covid denier on yet they do allow this. Parents are already anxious about sending their children back to school and social media went into overdrive on the back of this with people claiming you could effectively be sending your child to their deaths by doing so.
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Yes I don’t understand how the MSM get away with these stories. Always looking to inflame a situation, never offering any good news, drives me mad...Maybe I should go and do something less boring instead!

 
Lord Tyrion said:
Any reason for that, the intolerance? I get that one leads to another but it seems an odd one.
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Lack of enzymes in the gut, mostly evolutionary with genetic influences. More people in the world are lactose intolerant than tolerant. Humans evolved to consume milk only until weaning, and lost tolerance afterwards. Persisting lactose tolerance only evolved relatively recently in human evolution, and varies around the world, influenced by genetics and food culture. Europeans tend to be pretty tolerant, Asians much less so, so local food culture reflects that. You can get milk and dairy products in Japan, but it will have reduced lactose or lactose substitutes.
 
Yet when I went around the world last year. The orientals were buying chocolate in vast quantities to take back. It was unbelievable how much they would buy.
 
SwingsitlikeHogan said:
I’ll note that what I posted was not political - it was a comment on coronavirus strategy and how it might impact us...that the strategy came out of the mouth of ‘you know who‘ is not of my doing ?
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Strategy’s are made on the information given by many (experts) with different opinions and then having to make a decision. If circumstances change the willingness to change the strategy seems to be by some not the correct thing to do. These people are usually people who don’t have to make the decision in the first place.
 
Old Skier said:
Strategy’s are made on the information given by many (experts) with different opinions and then having to make a decision. If circumstances change the willingness to change the strategy seems to be by some not the correct thing to do. These people are usually people who don’t have to make the decision in the first place.
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And many times the information is in the public domain and seemingly ignored for whatever reason until they are either embarrassed or forced to revisit said information.
 
pauldj42 said:
And many times the information is in the public domain and seemingly ignored for whatever reason until they are either embarrassed or forced to revisit said information.
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All arguments from the “experts” have been in the public domain regarding lockdown, no lockdown, open schools, close schools, even the SAGE experts don’t agree with each other.

You make a choice and if it doesn’t work you can either change your direction or carry blindly on. Im not sure what some people want, to change or not to change.

Perhaps we and the critics should be grateful that we don’t have to make the choice.
 
Old Skier said:
All arguments from the “experts” have been in the public domain regarding lockdown, no lockdown, open schools, close schools, even the SAGE experts don’t agree with each other.

You make a choice and if it doesn’t work you can either change your direction or carry blindly on. Im not sure what some people want, to change or not to change.

Perhaps we and the critics should be grateful that we don’t have to make the choice.
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Why should we be grateful? If they don’t want the responsibility they can walk away or resign!

Are you honestly suggesting no mistakes or U-turns have been made? Some have happened in less than 24hrs before there has been time for the direction to even start.

The Schools policy is a joke for Tier 4 areas, either we are in this for the same threats or we are not.
 
Old Skier said:
All arguments from the “experts” have been in the public domain regarding lockdown, no lockdown, open schools, close schools, even the SAGE experts don’t agree with each other.

You make a choice and if it doesn’t work you can either change your direction or carry blindly on. Im not sure what some people want, to change or not to change.

Perhaps we and the critics should be grateful that we don’t have to make the choice.
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Bang on. In a totally non-political way, I am more than happy to say that politicians of all persuasions, but most certainly those in power, have my utmost sympathy at present. They are absolutely damned if they do, and damned if they don’t. I would not want to make the decisions they are having to make for all the tea in China (irony intended).

They are earning their money and then some at the moment.
 
pauldj42 said:
Why should we be grateful? If they don’t want the responsibility they can walk away or resign!

Are you honestly suggesting no mistakes or U-turns have been made? Some have happened in less than 24hrs before there has been time for the direction to even start.

The Schools policy is a joke for Tier 4 areas, either we are in this for the same threats or we are not.
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Point me at a post where I have said no mistakes or u turns have been made.

Are you qualified to suggest that the schools policy in tier 4 areas was a joke. 75% of teachers that were interviewed on air by the BBC yesterday said it was vital for children to be at school and that they personally felt safer in school than out in shops. I don’t have any school children but I can only assume that they have the ability to make a decent judgement along with expert after expert who suggest that it is more dangerous for children’s mental health and learning and future development to be at school.

Are they right, I don’t know, your opinion is that they are wrong, nothing wrong with that but it doesn’t make you right.
 
Old Skier said:
Point me at a post where I have said no mistakes or u turns have been made.

Are you qualified to suggest that the schools policy in tier 4 areas was a joke. 75% of teachers that were interviewed on air by the BBC yesterday said it was vital for children to be at school and that they personally felt safer in school than out in shops. I don’t have any school children but I can only assume that they have the ability to make a decent judgement along with expert after expert who suggest that it is more dangerous for children’s mental health and learning and future development to be at school.

Are they right, I don’t know, your opinion is that they are wrong, nothing wrong with that but it doesn’t make you right.
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It’s only my opinion, just like every other poster on here, never suggested I was right.

You initially suggested anyone not in the positions of those decisions makers should not criticise them as they are not in those positions, well I’d suggest going by some of the changes that have only happened when those outside that chain have made the noises.

I have no doubt the best place for a childs learning and future development is in a school, so let’s park that discussion and debate their health and the health of the families and the local communities, but I am yet to see anyone explain how children in one tier 4 area are any safer than a child in different tier 4 area.

Surely if we are going make these decisions it should show parity across the tiers.

If Children and who they interact with is treated differently within the same tier, what else may people think is ok to behave differently?
 
pauldj42 said:
It’s only my opinion, just like every other poster on here, never suggested I was right.

You initially suggested anyone not in the positions of those decisions makers should not criticise them as they are not in those positions, well I’d suggest going by some of the changes that have only happened when those outside that chain have made the noises.

I have no doubt the best place for a childs learning and future development is in a school, so let’s park that discussion and debate their health and the health of the families and the local communities, but I am yet to see anyone explain how children in one tier 4 area are any safer than a child in different tier 4 area.

Surely if we are going make these decisions it should show parity across the tiers.

If Children and who they interact with is treated differently within the same tier, what else may people think is ok to behave differently?
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Im only suggesting that us “ordinary people” form our bases of opinion on what we feel is right and it’s done without us having the full facts or taking into consideration the overall needs of the country particularly in the scope of other medical issues and the economy.

My opinion is we should lock down completely for at least another month. Very easy for me to say, I don’t rely on work for an income and HID can work from home. I also realise that that isn’t necessarily good for everybody.

As to the behavior of other people, gave up on that half way through lockdown 1.
 
Old Skier said:
Im only suggesting that us “ordinary people” form our bases of opinion on what we feel is right and it’s done without us having the full facts or taking into consideration the overall needs of the country particularly in the scope of other medical issues and the economy.

My opinion is we should lock down completely for at least another month. Very easy for me to say, I don’t rely on work for an income and HID can work from home. I also realise that that isn’t necessarily good for everybody.

As to the behavior of other people, gave up on that half way through lockdown 1.
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I agree on the complete lockdown, all we seem to be doing is kicking the can down the road on some issues, been a lot of “chat” with parents of our Juniors today and some are confused/angry etc with the opening/closing policy of schools tomorrow, some have come on and said the advice from the headteachers themselves as to whether some of the schools will be open tomorrow has changed during the day, this can’t be right.
 
Given the 50000 new cases per day, the lag time from infection thru symptoms to hospitalisation, which can take 3 weeks, it seems so obvious where England is heading yet govt dither on it for at least the 3rd time. It's bizarre frankly. ?
 
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