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Coronavirus - how is it/has it affected you?

SwingsitlikeHogan said:
I simply observed that ‘wait and see’ is not consistent with being ‘ahead of the curve’.

Johnson was clear this morning that more stringent restrictions are very likely to be brought in and more schools closed and that the public will accept these changes. Well if that is the case then why not just do this now rather than wait and see. Because the experience to date of ‘waiting to see’ suggests that by the time you ‘see’ it is often too late...
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Don’t they have to be voted for in Parliament if more stringent measures are required.
 
We don't have decisive action taken by those in charge, we don't have decisive action taken against those caught flouting the rules so what do we expect?
I do everything I can to limit my risk to me and my familiy but I'm sick and tired of the leadership lethargy and those who the rules don't apply to.
Fine all the rule breakers heavy and make them do 2 weeks in the covid frontline before an enforced 2 week isolation at a detention centre or something.
This isn't something that we can mess about with. We have shown as a country we are willing to let our leaders meander along and we are prepared to let people off punishment for rule breaking.
When will they learn this thing kills and can cause long term damage to you, everyone you pass it to and to the NHS funding requirement.
 
maxfli65 said:
Given the 50000 new cases per day, the lag time from infection thru symptoms to hospitalisation, which can take 3 weeks, it seems so obvious where England is heading yet govt dither on it for at least the 3rd time. It's bizarre frankly. ?
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Judging by the BBC news same could be said about the Scottish Leader so I’m not sure why you are only looking south.
 
chrisd said:
Strikes me that it's not the kids in school is the real problem, it's the fact that many teachers are over 50 and vulnerable. Why were they not amongst the first to receive vaccinations?
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Race to the top, everyone coming up with a reason for why they should be first. Perhaps we should bump the armed forces to the front as they keep being tasked with jobs nobody else wants to do.
 
Old Skier said:
Race to the top, everyone coming up with a reason for why they should be first. Perhaps we should bump the armed forces to the front as they keep being tasked with jobs nobody else wants to do.
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And, dare I say it, the police. They are expected, day after day, to get up close and personal with the sort of people who are most likely to flout the rules.
 
Billysboots said:
And, dare I say it, the police. They are expected, day after day, to get up close and personal with the sort of people who are most likely to flout the rules.
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And most likely to be nasty about it. And the officers won't have PPE either.
What a situation to have to deal with.
And any suggestion about getting tough, and there'll be snowflakes everywhere. A right blizzard?
 
Old Skier said:
Judging by the BBC news same could be said about the Scottish Leader so I’m not sure why you are only looking south.
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Bit defensive, we went into lockdown on 26th Dec as did NI, acted a bit quicker. England avoiding your tier4 in many areas until its too late, no?
 
Old Skier said:
Like I said, race to the top. Doubt if any self respecting squaddie, Bobby or professional would wish to jump the queue.
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Absolutely not - just making a point! We could all make a case for moving up the queue, but the facts largely speak for themselves. Those aged 75+ are the biggest risk group by some distance.
 
maxfli65 said:
Bit defensive, we went into lockdown on 26th Dec as did NI, acted a bit quicker. England avoiding your tier4 in many areas until its too late, no?
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Over 80% of the population of England fall within Tier 4 so not that many areas.
 
So today we have reports of Cheshire Police rescueing people from cars trapped in snow, all but one of the cars had travelled from outside the area!:mad:

Why not put a ban on using the car for leisure to 5 miles regardless of tier level.
 
Lord Tyrion said:
My MiL had a 2 week exchange with a Japanese family a good few years ago, part of a church thing. Diet is much healthier but they have a real aversion to milk and other calcium rich foods. Apparently they have a big problem with bone strength and related issues in later years. Nearly ideal but could do with a little tweak.
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They aren't very good at processing alcohol through their bodies. They would be red faced and staggering after a few halves of beer.
 
Struggling for numbers for the rota tomorrow. Got a meeting at 7.30 to find out the next level of escalation or actions to be taken. First day back and for the first time in a long time I am dreading going in, not only because of the expected demands and workload (that be doesn't faze me) but also from a personal safety point of view. I'm very nervous of this new strain and the rate of infection and the chances of getting covid. More so giving it to HID with her health conditions
 
pauldj42 said:
So today we have reports of Cheshire Police rescueing people from cars trapped in snow, all but one of the cars had travelled from outside the area!:mad:

Why not put a ban on using the car for leisure to 5 miles regardless of tier level.
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Cheshire is in tier 4 so no one has an excuse for travelling into it, not that any excuses hold water on this subject anyway.

I tend to agree on your last point although I'd prefer 10 miles (there may be self interest in this extension suggestion ?️‍♂️⛳)
 
maxfli65 said:
Bit defensive, we went into lockdown on 26th Dec as did NI, acted a bit quicker. England avoiding your tier4 in many areas until its too late, no?
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Nothing to do with 26th, this is happening today https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-scotland-politics-55521541

Nothing to do with being defensive more to acknowledge the fact that ALL four of the countries leaders are having to change strategy on the move along with most other European leaders.
 
Lord Tyrion said:
Cheshire is in tier 4 so no one has an excuse for travelling into it, not that any excuses hold water on this subject anyway.

I tend to agree on your last point although I'd prefer 10 miles (there may be self interest in this extension suggestion ?️‍♂️⛳)
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Whatever the distance someone will want a couple of more mile. ;)
 
Got an email from my sons school this evening saying that years 6 ,2 and reception are now in from tomorrow but due to lack of teachers other years are shut. My son is year 6 so he will be in but what a mess.

My wife is a teacher in a primary school with a current ongoing recovery issue from cavatating pneumonia meaning she has holes in her lung and the required procedures are delayed due to covid. Her school open from tomorrow as normal, she will have a class of 30 and a teaching assistant and they are not allowed PPE to teach.

On facebook she is looking at pictures of other teachers, teaching assistants and parents all breaking the rules, multi groups in doors, groups of 10+ outside etc etc and those same people will either be in shcool or sending their kids in to school tomorrow and expecting teachers to due their job regardless of their breaches.

On top of that we have some teachers pretty much striking, there was a union meeting at 11am today across the country and many of those teachers were given not safe to work letters which have been sent to schools saying they will not be in, hence half my sons school now being closed.

It's like watching a train wreck happen at the moment.
 
HomerJSimpson said:
I am dreading going in, not only because of the expected demands and workload (that be doesn't faze me) but also from a personal safety point of view. I'm very nervous of this new strain and the rate of infection and the chances of getting covid. More so giving it to HID with her health conditions
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It seems like all the teachers are presently sending in Section 44 letters to their heads to ensure they don’t have to go into school anymore due to safety grounds. Genuine question, what is to stop you (or anyone else) sending in one yourself if you do feel this way? I’m not sure whether the letter is industry specific however the template is as follows...

Dear [name of head],

Re: Health & Safety

I am writing to you following the increase in transmission and infection rates currently recorded across England.
You are, I am sure, aware that you have legal duties to protect the health, safety and welfare of your staff and pupils. Those duties arise under the following legislation: -
  • Sections 2 and 3 of the Health & Safety Act 1974
  • Regulations 3 and 8 of the Management of Health & Safety at Work Regulations 1999
  • Regulation 4 of the Personal Protective Equipment at Work Regulations 1992
  • Regulation 4 of the Workplace (Health, Safety & Welfare) Regulations 1992
Regulation 7 of the Control of Substances Hazardous to Health Regulations 2002
The most recent advice from SAGE is that schools should not open in January[1] other than for children of key workers and vulnerable children. This is because the scientific advice is that it is not safe for schools to open. There are new variants of Covid-19 that are highly infectious and infection rates have increased significantly since schools closed.
I appreciate that measures have been in place since September to allow the school to open but according to SAGE those measures may no longer be sufficient. They state in their most recent report: -
The introduction of Tier 4 measures in England combined with the school holidays will be informative of the strength of measures required to control the new variant but analysis of this will not be possible until mid-January.
Based on the above I do not believe that it is safe for me to return to teaching or supporting full classes at [name of school].

If I do attend [name of school] I believe that this will present a serious and imminent danger to my health and safety.
I am therefore writing to inform you that I am exercising my contractual right not to attend an unsafe place of work. I believe that not attending work in the current circumstances is an appropriate step for me to take for the following reasons:

The dangers that are preventing me from attending work are the risk of contracting coronavirus and or spreading coronavirus to others.

The person(s) I am seeking to protect are myself, my family, our pupils, their families, my colleagues, their families and members of the public.

I believe that this danger is serious because coronavirus infection is potentially fatal and has already resulted in more than 73,512 deaths in the UK with a significant up surge in recent weeks.

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[1] https://assets.publishing.service.g...ile/948606/s0991-sage-meeting-74-covid-19.pdf
 
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