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Coronavirus - how is it/has it affected you?

pauljames87 said:
It's proven so far if you pre warn of a change you get idiots like this

If you don't you get moaned at

Lose lose
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Nothing to do with pre-warning people, it’s more obvious the message isn’t getting through.

London has been like this since the pubs re-opened.:mad:
 
Swinglowandslow said:
No, the message is getting through. They have got the message. They are choosing to ignore it.
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What message? Parts of the North East under extra lockdown with lower infection rates than parts of London.

Just what is the message to people in London.

Why is blanket coverage ok only up North?
 
pauldj42 said:
What message? Parts of the North East under extra lockdown with lower infection rates than parts of London.

Just what is the message to people in London.

Why is blanket coverage ok only up North?
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££££££ simple as that
 
Swinglowandslow said:
In a way , you are both right. But HK makes an indisputable point.
If you left it to common sense, honourable and sensible people would take the necessary care.
But a lot, and in this country now it is a lot, of people are choosing not to have those attributes, so rules as opposed to guidance, are necessary for them- but , of course, some are also defiant and they readily break the rules, making it easy to lay the blame on the rule makers .Because, even that defiance is not acknowledged by many, for various nefarious reasons.

It boils down to " Einstein was right"
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Just want to reiterate that I'm not condemning those that do break the rules.

The challenge is that the guidance to stop the spread by social distancing, hands washing etc is sound. But within that general common sense guidance, rules are needed as, rightly or wrongly, the location and situation means that you can do different things at different times in different places within that guidance.
 
pauljames87 said:
Without going too political they don't want to anger the heartlands
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But when normal, intelligent people are abiding by the rules/guidance in one area are ok and then in an identical area in other parts of the Country they behave the same, we only label one lot as idiots.

It’s time to lockdown the whole Country again imo.
 
Hacker Khan said:
Just want to reiterate that I'm not condemning those that do break the rules.

The challenge is that the guidance to stop the spread by social distancing, hands washing etc is sound. But within that general common sense guidance, rules are needed as, rightly or wrongly, the location and situation means that you can do different things at different times in different places within that guidance.
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But surely the basic three guidelines underpin everything, all the additional rules do is reinforce them.
 
pauldj42 said:
But when normal, intelligent people are abiding by the rules/guidance in one area are ok and then in an identical area in other parts of the Country they behave the same, we only label one lot as idiots.

It’s time to lockdown the whole Country again imo.
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Very much doubt we will see a national lockdown again

When we had it in march it was an unknown virus, fears of the NHS being over whelmed and need to re-evaluate way of life.

We now have restrictions
Covid is more understood than before
The NHS is coping

Nationwide lockdown would completely cripple the country further maybe beyond all recovery.

Just can't see it happening.

Everything but lockdown
 
pauldj42 said:
But when normal, intelligent people are abiding by the rules/guidance in one area are ok and then in an identical area in other parts of the Country they behave the same, we only label one lot as idiots.

It’s time to lockdown the whole Country again imo.
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The infection rates per 100,000 speak for themselves. In areas where they are low there's no need for a lockdown.
 
SocketRocket said:
The infection rates per 100,000 speak for themselves. In areas where they are low there's no need for a lockdown.
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You mean like parts of the North East and North West were that has happened, whole region treated with a broad brush.
 
pauljames87 said:
Very interesting charts there and no understandable reason why they would be higher in the north than the south ..

Unless us southern softies are just tougher lol
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I'd argue there are many reasons combining at the same time such as affluence, population density, ethnicity, employment structure, university locations and no doubt many others. Looking for one single reason is impossible.
 
went down town today and it was full of people in shops not wearing masks, not making any effort to SD and in the shoe shop we were in a woman was trying on shoes with her mask not even covering her mouth, coughed right on the sales asst. School holidays so mostly vistors by the sound of some of the accents
 
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