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Coronavirus - how is it/has it affected you?

pauljames87 said:
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Did you miss the graph? Look at the difference between London and the north
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No, it’s not just one thing, look at the other graphs, Watford for example and why there infection rate per 100,000 is so high, then ask if their infected are going to hospital or not.

Plenty of isolated communities in the NE with no hospital admissions but still under lockdown because of location.
 
pauldj42 said:
No, it’s not just one thing, look at the other graphs, Watford for example and why there infection rate per 100,000 is so high, then ask if their infected are going to hospital or not.

Plenty of isolated communities in the NE with no hospital admissions but still under lockdown because of location.
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Yes but the point being discussed in the reply was is it something to do with hospital admissions and looking at the figures London and the south east figures are very low compared to the north areas on lock down


First lockdown was to "protect the NHS" so maybe that's just what some of the thinking is

Not agreeing with it ofc.

Is it to do with areas they are under of control. We have stupid amount of boroughs of London in the space the north would have 1 or 2.... So have to go with the figures for the whole of the area not the one small bit
 
pauljames87 said:
Yes but the point being discussed in the reply was is it something to do with hospital admissions and looking at the figures London and the south east figures are very low compared to the north areas on lock down


First lockdown was to "protect the NHS" so maybe that's just what some of the thinking is

Not agreeing with it ofc.
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I understand the North has higher numbers, but the fact is parts of the South are now at higher rates than when the North was put on extra lockdown, I’m not suggesting for one minute to unlock the North, but the goalposts for when extra lockdown should be implemented seemed to have moved.
 
pauldj42 said:
I understand the North has higher numbers, but the fact is parts of the South are now at higher rates than when the North was put on extra lockdown, I’m not suggesting for one minute to unlock the North, but the goalposts for when extra lockdown should be implemented seemed to have moved.
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I would hazard a guess is the levels they set for original local measures are now within reach of almost everyone and they want to avoid a national lockdown so have moved the goalposts to make sure they don't shoot themsleves in the foot but walking into one
 
patricks148 said:
went down town today and it was full of people in shops not wearing masks, not making any effort to SD and in the shoe shop we were in a woman was trying on shoes with her mask not even covering her mouth, coughed right on the sales asst. School holidays so mostly vistors by the sound of some of the accents
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Suprised that the shops are allowing this behaviour, more interested in a sale than following the rules?
 
patricks148 said:
went down town today and it was full of people in shops not wearing masks, not making any effort to SD and in the shoe shop we were in a woman was trying on shoes with her mask not even covering her mouth, coughed right on the sales asst. School holidays so mostly vistors by the sound of some of the accents
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It is not school holidays everywhere. Edinburgh and Lothians start next weekend.
 
The virus spread is not always the same in different conurbations. Take Bristol for example, it's a big city that has two Universities, a fairly big BAME community, a number of highly populated areas but the infection rates have remained fairly low throughout the pandemic. I also see from one of the charts that the Outer Hebrides has a higher infection rate than the bordering mainland areas. The Southwest has fairly low levels throughout except for Exeter, I guess that must have something to do with its University although Plymouth is much lower. I have a feeling the problem is more to do with Social attitudes than environmental.
 
My Mrs gets a letter on Friday from NHS Professionals asking her to join T&T - she applied right at the start - and asking first off what shifts she can do...What?

Why was she not asked during the summer for all the evidence and validation she is now being asked to provide. Why did they not do the training on procedures - get her set up with any software required etc...so she would be on their bank and ready to go come October when we knew a second surge was very likely.

Asking her now in the first email what shifts she can do? Ah well. Too late. Since she applied and wasn’t taken on she’s signed up for the hospital bank to provide cover for the old team.

Not sufficient forward thinking has gone into T&T - or maybe the private company who she would now work for if she did it didn’t fancy spending the money on training and prepping her. What a shambles is our world class T&T..Mrs is really annoyed and frustrated with them :(
 
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SwingsitlikeHogan said:
My Mrs gets a letter on Friday from NHS Professionals asking her to join T&T - she applied right at the start - and asking first off what shifts she can do...What?

Why was she not asked during the summer for all the evidence and validation she is now being asked to provide. Why did they not do the training on procedures - get her set up with any software required etc...so she would be on their bank and ready to go come October when we knew a second surge was very likely.

Asking her now in the first email what shifts she can do? Ah well. Too late. Since she applied and wasn’t taken on she’s signed up for the hospital bank to provide cover for the old team.

Not sufficient forward thinking has gone into T&T - or maybe the private company who she would now work for if she did it didn’t fancy spending the money on training and prepping her. What a shambles is our world class T&T..Mrs is really annoyed and frustrated with them :(
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Or maybe they just had some vacancies and she was next on the list of applicants....
 
Imurg said:
Or maybe they just had some vacancies and she was next on the list of applicants....
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Could be. Though if so why not get her sorted, on-boarded and trained well in advance of actually asking what shifts she can work...or at least tell her she was on the reserve list. instead nothing - and now too late as she has been asked to go on the bank for the nhs cancer team she worked in, and she has, and can’t do both.
 
SwingsitlikeHogan said:
Could be. Though if so why not get her sorted, on-boarded and trained well in advance of actually asking what shifts she can work...or at least tell her she was on the reserve list. instead nothing - and now too late as she has been asked to go on the bank for the nhs cancer team she worked in, and she has, and can’t do both.
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... or maybe the 5 on the list before her said no. Maybe a big second spike wasn't expected, or that a vaccine would be in place.

And maybe you're pre-judging without all the facts.
 
Cases beginning to rise a little sharper https://www.getreading.co.uk/news/r.../berkshire-coronavirus-cases-rise-85-19085077

That said we've been really level in terms of ICU admissions for the last 4-5 weeks (since the second wave has been said to be taken hold). I have no doubt we'll see it. At the moment, certainly down here, it is like those old war films when you see the soldiers on the top of the cliff looking out to see awaiting the invasion fleet. You know it's coming, maybe not today or tomorrow, but at some point. Will be interesting to hear the next set of measures (presuming the three tier system being touted).
 
garyinderry said:
I'm struggling to understand why anyone with dodgey breathing would want to walk about without a mask. They should be wearing extra protection.
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In my opinion there are very few legit reasons not to wear a mask. Asthma and COPD are not among them. It is ridiculous that people can just buy a lanyard and self-declare themselves exempt.
 
Ethan said:
In my opinion there are very few legit reasons not to wear a mask. Asthma and COPD are not among them. It is ridiculous that people can just buy a lanyard and self-declare themselves exempt.
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Anybody who has a proper reason should be in fairly constant contact with his GP/consultant anyway and be told to stay away from others. Remember shielding? Maybe there should be mask or official lanyard rule/law.

And once again, people wearing it wrongly, ahhhhh! Maybe tasers are the right thing ...


But we got toilet paper and pasta. We did a cupboard clean and even found an extra pack of Morrisons pasta. We haven't been to Morrisons since we moved 26 months ago ;-) Lockdown ready!
 
I'll frame this as a press comment but it would be nice if leaks stopped appearing in the press about upcoming restrictions. At the start of all this it was rightly acknowledged that finding out about upcoming restrictions that could impact your livelihood in the Daily Telegraph was not the best so it was stopped. But we now seem to have gone back to Peston and Kunessberg announcing government policy.
 
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