Hacker Khan
Yurt Dwelling, Yoghurt Knitter
I'm amazed that people are suddenly realizing the majority of our press are not the greatest from watching the daily press briefings. Like where have you been for the last decade? 
How do we deal with that or get to the point where that doesn't worry us?
I don't think it's that so much. Knowing what they are like in ordinary circumstances is pretty universal , it's just that this being a national crisis I for one, hoped they would have the common good more uppermost in their behaviour.I'm amazed that people are suddenly realizing the majority of our press are not the greatest from watching the daily press briefings. Like where have you been for the last decade?![]()
You do that and while away contemplating your navel think on your own words and how you may be a complete parallel of people you so readily decry so vehemently. You are as much a part of the problem so please drop the hypocracy.Take a look at yourself Bri, he‘s made a comment that’s negative to the government and straight away you’re on his case. You’re better than that.
Some on here see any negative post towards the regime now as “party politics” and can’t see past there own views. The current gov aren’t beyond criticism.
Anyway, KF’s a clever enough lad to fight his own battles and there’s too many know all‘s on this thread, so I’ll hibernate elsewhere??
Unfortunately we have gained a press which want to make news rather than report it.I'm amazed that people are suddenly realizing the majority of our press are not the greatest from watching the daily press briefings. Like where have you been for the last decade?![]()
You do that and while away contemplating your navel think on your own words and how you may be a complete parallel of people you so readily decry so vehemently. You are as much a part of the problem so please drop the hypocracy.
Would you be happy to be one of those thrown under a bus so that others can get back to normal. How many deaths are an acceptable price, I was of the opinion all life was worth preserving.Herd immunity is the only way to overcome things and get back to normal.
Yes, when they are being hypocritical. Maybe you have an opinion on his accusations of others while excluding himself.And calling people hypocrites helps? Does it? .....
I think that where we would disagree is the level of lockdown that the government actually wanted. I believe that the current state (minus the idiots who are breaking the actual rules) is exactly what they wanted. They want people out working, spending, exercising etc. They don’t want people locked in and totally isolating themselves from society.
My belief is that they want to reduce the level of infection, but not at the expense of the economy. Bob (understandably) has been very vocal about people staying at home. He was still of the opinion that people didn’t need to go to work unless they were frontline workers only last week. He thinks that there should be a much tougher lockdown.
My view is that if the government wanted people to stay inside all day then they wouldn’t have made the exceptions quite as broad as they did. The 1 hour limit is a good example if this. It doesn’t exist. There is no such thing. It was given as an example in one interview by one Minister. If they wanted it they’d have included it. Yet people are still referencing it every 5 minutes.
So, either the Government is following the scientists, who are following the science. Or they’re not. But people seem to want it both ways. If the Government are following the science, then the rules laid down are good enough. If we want to read extra precautions into the rules then the Government must be getting it wrong.
It can’t be both...
Yes, when they are being hypocritical. Maybe you have an opinion on his accusations of others views.
OK, that's a fair pointI do, but I also have an opinion on people trying to be the Forum Police,
I’d much rather members report such posts rather than take on the perp themselves
Especially when it comes down to this example
This is just not the case though. NICE has always had a formula which evaluates the cost of care against extending life of a certain quality.Would you be happy to be one of those thrown under a bus so that others can get back to normal. How many deaths are an acceptable price, I was of the opinion all life was worth preserving.
more evidence people just don't get it...
two guys in the bught park hitting golf balls about 150 yards, but onlt about 50 yards from the road with lots of out walking, only a shank away... then heading back home passed two houses having a BBQ with each with a dozen or so people in the Garden![]()
I disagree except in the case where quality of life is so poor then death becomes a release. A society that decides this or that life is worth ending as it's not ecconomically or socially justified is a society that is inhumane and bordering the regime we did so much in the last centuary to defeat.This is just not the case though. NICE has always had a formula which evaluates the cost of care against extending life of a certain quality.
People die every day of preventable causes which we have accepted as a cost of our current lifestyles and economic success (air quality, heart disease, obesity, diabetes, alcohol, smoking, road accidents etc etc etc).
There's literally never been a time where all life has been worth preserving at any cost.
What do you disagree with? That we currently don't don't this or that we shouldn't?I disagree except in the case where quality of life is so poor then death becomes a release. A society that decides this or that life is worth ending as it's not ecconomically or socially justified is a society that is inhumane and bordering the regime we did so much in the last centuary to defeat.
Would you be happy to be one of those thrown under a bus so that others can get back to normal. How many deaths are an acceptable price, I was of the opinion all life was worth preserving.
You do that and while away contemplating your navel think on your own words and how you may be a complete parallel of people you so readily decry so vehemently. You are as much a part of the problem so please drop the hypocracy.
It's been said a million times, lockdown was only introduced to slow the spread, not stop the spread. It's also been said 60-80% of the population will get it, so slowing the spread is only to assist the NHS in coping with the infections, the dying is going to happen regardless, herd immunity or a vaccine is the only way to stop the dying.