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Coronavirus - how is it/has it affected you?

PhilTheFragger said:
Actually the "dying is going to happen regardless" is incorrect

You are correct that lockdown will delay the spread, meaning that the NHS will hopefully, be able to cope and not be overwhelmed at any point in time
Thus ensuring that all who need ventilators have access to them, a good number of those will recover

If the NHS were to be overwhelmed, then there would not be enough ventilators to go round and people would be dropping like flies

Far fewer will die as a result of the lockdown measures currently in operation and likely to be extended

But yes, vaccine or get it and survive are the only long term outcomes now
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Possibly the "regardless" part left out and we're there.

There seems to be some kind of misconception that dying won't happen but we've been made very aware that it will, it's essentially a lottery, folk with no under lying health problems dying, some with not.
 
No new admissions all day. Had a death late on as I left (not 100% sure it was Covid related) so a pretty stagnant day in terms of incoming and outgoing patients. Does that mean the slope is flattening or at a local level have we just been lucky to date? Still a large number of deaths announced. Likely to continue in lockdown as predicted by most https://news.sky.com/story/coronavi...to-relax-covid-19-lockdown-this-week-11972724

One disturbing paragraph from the article though - The confirmed UK death toll passed 10,000 at the weekend, with a government adviser and infectious diseases expert warning the country could end up being the "worst affected country in Europe".
 
I looked at the numbers of confirmed cases in Kent today and, according to the BBC news 1500 (almost) in a population of 1.5m are confirmed cases, but acknowledges not all cases are reported - I reckon lockdown must play a part in keeping numbers down
 
Stuart_C said:
Is this classed as trolling or stalking?? ?

Sticking your oar in where it doesn't concern you? I bet you're the ear wigging type aswell aren't you? The forums own Norris Cole ?

Anyway that's the last bone I'll be giving you, Mr know all.

Have a very nice evening.

PS. If you're going to accuse someone of something, please make sure you spell it correctly ?
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SocketRocket said:
I disagree except in the case where quality of life is so poor then death becomes a release. A society that decides this or that life is worth ending as it's not ecconomically or socially justified is a society that is inhumane and bordering the regime we did so much in the last centuary to defeat.
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How is that, the bold bit, actually different to what you disagreed with?
Your 2nd sentence implies folk are actually being killed, as opposed to being let 'fade away'! I don't believe this actually happens in UK.
 
Just been informed that close family friend has just died from the virus.

He did have leukemia but it was being managed and all the signs were very positive.

He went to hospital early last week for treatment with his Leukemia but suddenly developed Covid-19 symptoms during the week and was admitted on Friday, due to his current condition combined with the virus, he passed away yesterday.

Only a week ago all was rosy, leaping over all the main hurdles, then wooosh, gone!

It has been stated, by doctors, as he’s not been out anywhere that he possibly contracted it at the hospital on his last visit, but due to his current treatment & condition, the virus couldn’t be fought.

Yes he had underlining conditions, but this is how quick things can happen and turnaround so tragically.
 
chrisd said:
I looked at the numbers of confirmed cases in Kent today and, according to the BBC news 1500 (almost) in a population of 1.5m are confirmed cases, but acknowledges not all cases are reported - I reckon lockdown must play a part in keeping numbers down
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I looked at that as well because my parents live in Herne Bay.. the week before it was 878 .. should have made a plot on it to see if it was climbing at a similar rate as Oxfordshire. Just out of interest, and to see if London Manchester and Birmingham are the highest or biggest growing areas
 
SocketRocket said:
Oh, I must have been watching a different Daily briefing, in the one I watched she spoke well and seemed to give a good update and answer questions confidently. Did you try removing your anti-conservative filters before watching?
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Bunkermagnet said:
Lets look another way at this then.
Will the NHS ever be in a sitaution where it can cope. If the answer is "no" ( and I believe that is the answer looking at beds, staffing required and equipment needed) how long can we actually survive and cope the way we are?
As I said previous, China is seeing a new increase in numbers of new cases as a result of infected people returning from across boarders and then infecting others already home. How do we deal with that or get to the point where that doesn't worry us?
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This is the great mystery China are telling us they have only had 3,000 odd deaths and if you believe them new cases recorded are coming over the border from Russia.
They have miraculously almost defeated the virus it can't have been with herd immunity if only 3,000 odd deaths, so exactly whats going on my belief is they are suppressing the truth.
 
Fish said:
Just been informed that close family friend has just died from the virus.

He did have leukemia but it was being managed and all the signs were very positive.

He went to hospital early last week for treatment with his Leukemia but suddenly developed Covid-19 symptoms during the week and was admitted on Friday, due to his current condition combined with the virus, he passed away yesterday.

Only a week ago all was rosy, leaping over all the main hurdles, then wooosh, gone!

It has been stated, by doctors, as he’s not been out anywhere that he possibly contracted it at the hospital on his last visit, but due to his current treatment & condition, the virus couldn’t be fought.

Yes he had underlining conditions, but this is how quick things can happen and turnaround so tragically.
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Sorry to hear about that - we have had a similar experience with someone close to us
Sadly some people are more vulnerable - earlier than expected death is still a tragedy for such people and their loved ones
 
Foxholer said:
How is that, the bold bit, actually different to what you disagreed with?
Your 2nd sentence implies folk are actually being killed, as opposed to being let 'fade away'! I don't believe this actually happens in UK.
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Read the post that I was replying to then read mine again in context.

It was suggested life wasnt worth saving at all cost thus indicating some lives should be sacrificed. My point was this is wrong except in cases where death is a welcome release for the individual.
 
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Fish said:
Just been informed that close family friend has just died from the virus.

He did have leukemia but it was being managed and all the signs were very positive.

He went to hospital early last week for treatment with his Leukemia but suddenly developed Covid-19 symptoms during the week and was admitted on Friday, due to his current condition combined with the virus, he passed away yesterday.

Only a week ago all was rosy, leaping over all the main hurdles, then wooosh, gone!

It has been stated, by doctors, as he’s not been out anywhere that he possibly contracted it at the hospital on his last visit, but due to his current treatment & condition, the virus couldn’t be fought.

Yes he had underlining conditions, but this is how quick things can happen and turnaround so tragically.
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So sad.
 
my neighbour died today. I knew he had sepsis following a hip operation but he was sent home after he got better. his daughter wrote on FB that he had lost his battle with coronavirus. I'm confused as to why he was at home "battling" coronavirus and not at hospital. I only saw him 4 days ago and he seemed OK and never mentioned coronavirus. . bit of a shock when it's so close to home
 
HappyHacker1 said:
A number of reason, economically due to having to pay for it in future, poverty due to, having to pay for it in future, suicides, domestic abuse, current already on going health issues that have likely been put off til later.

The cure may well be a lot worse than the disease.
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Do you not accept that those cases you mention can be prevented in many cases with lifestyle choices. Do you honest believe a policy that would potentially throw millions or even tens of millions of people under the bus an acceptable policy for a government to take. Really!
 
SocketRocket said:
Do you not accept that those cases you mention can be prevented in many cases with lifestyle choices. Do you honest believe a policy that would potentially throw millions or even tens of millions of people under the bus an acceptable policy for a government to take. Really!
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What policy would throw tens of millions of people under the bus ?
 
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