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Coronavirus - how is it/has it affected you?

I'm amazed that people are suddenly realizing the majority of our press are not the greatest from watching the daily press briefings. Like where have you been for the last decade? ;)
I don't think it's that so much. Knowing what they are like in ordinary circumstances is pretty universal , it's just that this being a national crisis I for one, hoped they would have the common good more uppermost in their behaviour.
Hope and expectation, however, are not the same thing?
 
Take a look at yourself Bri, he‘s made a comment that’s negative to the government and straight away you’re on his case. You’re better than that.

Some on here see any negative post towards the regime now as “party politics” and can’t see past there own views. The current gov aren’t beyond criticism.

Anyway, KF’s a clever enough lad to fight his own battles and there’s too many know all‘s on this thread, so I’ll hibernate elsewhere??
You do that and while away contemplating your navel think on your own words and how you may be a complete parallel of people you so readily decry so vehemently. You are as much a part of the problem so please drop the hypocracy.
 
You do that and while away contemplating your navel think on your own words and how you may be a complete parallel of people you so readily decry so vehemently. You are as much a part of the problem so please drop the hypocracy.

And calling people hypocrites helps? Does it? .....
 
I think that where we would disagree is the level of lockdown that the government actually wanted. I believe that the current state (minus the idiots who are breaking the actual rules) is exactly what they wanted. They want people out working, spending, exercising etc. They don’t want people locked in and totally isolating themselves from society.

My belief is that they want to reduce the level of infection, but not at the expense of the economy. Bob (understandably) has been very vocal about people staying at home. He was still of the opinion that people didn’t need to go to work unless they were frontline workers only last week. He thinks that there should be a much tougher lockdown.

My view is that if the government wanted people to stay inside all day then they wouldn’t have made the exceptions quite as broad as they did. The 1 hour limit is a good example if this. It doesn’t exist. There is no such thing. It was given as an example in one interview by one Minister. If they wanted it they’d have included it. Yet people are still referencing it every 5 minutes.

So, either the Government is following the scientists, who are following the science. Or they’re not. But people seem to want it both ways. If the Government are following the science, then the rules laid down are good enough. If we want to read extra precautions into the rules then the Government must be getting it wrong.

It can’t be both...

My comments were to do with the person who was still at work making commemoritive coins and how I thought that people with jobs that weren't impotant should stay at home safe.
As far as the lockdown is concerned, firstly you ask them to stay at home, and if they don't do as asked then you tell them.
Medium measures should be enough but it the selfish idiots continue to go out unnecessarily then, everyone suffers.
 
more evidence people just don't get it...

two guys in the bught park hitting golf balls about 150 yards, but onlt about 50 yards from the road with lots of out walking, only a shank away... then heading back home passed two houses having a BBQ with each with a dozen or so people in the Garden:rolleyes:
 
I'm right you're wrong...neh neh neh neh neh.

I'm just glad we are all healthy and hope we can stay that way.
Whether I'm right or wrong...I hope we all and everyone we love and is important to us stays well and healthy, and if we are so unlucky do get it are able to survive and pull through.

Here's hoping:)
 
Yes, when they are being hypocritical. Maybe you have an opinion on his accusations of others views.

I do, but I also have an opinion on people trying to be the Forum Police,
I’d much rather members report such posts rather than take on the perp themselves
Especially when it comes down to this example
 
Would you be happy to be one of those thrown under a bus so that others can get back to normal. How many deaths are an acceptable price, I was of the opinion all life was worth preserving.
This is just not the case though. NICE has always had a formula which evaluates the cost of care against extending life of a certain quality.
People die every day of preventable causes which we have accepted as a cost of our current lifestyles and economic success (air quality, heart disease, obesity, diabetes, alcohol, smoking, road accidents etc etc etc).
There's literally never been a time where all life has been worth preserving at any cost.
 
more evidence people just don't get it...

two guys in the bught park hitting golf balls about 150 yards, but onlt about 50 yards from the road with lots of out walking, only a shank away... then heading back home passed two houses having a BBQ with each with a dozen or so people in the Garden:rolleyes:

There were quite a number of families joining with other neighbouring families at the outset for the lockdown so they could cover each others kids as adults went to work and young ones had playmates etc. The BBQs could be from that scenario, i.e. they are one big group for purposes of isolating.
Or they could be eejits.

The golfers should be chased. Bught is big but it should be a safe exercise space for all.
 
This is just not the case though. NICE has always had a formula which evaluates the cost of care against extending life of a certain quality.
People die every day of preventable causes which we have accepted as a cost of our current lifestyles and economic success (air quality, heart disease, obesity, diabetes, alcohol, smoking, road accidents etc etc etc).
There's literally never been a time where all life has been worth preserving at any cost.
I disagree except in the case where quality of life is so poor then death becomes a release. A society that decides this or that life is worth ending as it's not ecconomically or socially justified is a society that is inhumane and bordering the regime we did so much in the last centuary to defeat.
 
I disagree except in the case where quality of life is so poor then death becomes a release. A society that decides this or that life is worth ending as it's not ecconomically or socially justified is a society that is inhumane and bordering the regime we did so much in the last centuary to defeat.
What do you disagree with? That we currently don't don't this or that we shouldn't?
The evidence is overwhelming that we do.
I would also add in our continued acceptance of poverty when it is so well documented as leading to greatly reduced length and quality of life.
 
Would you be happy to be one of those thrown under a bus so that others can get back to normal. How many deaths are an acceptable price, I was of the opinion all life was worth preserving.

It's been said a million times, lockdown was only introduced to slow the spread, not stop the spread. It's also been said 60-80% of the population will get it, so slowing the spread is only to assist the NHS in coping with the infections, the dying is going to happen regardless, herd immunity or a vaccine is the only way to stop the dying.
 
You do that and while away contemplating your navel think on your own words and how you may be a complete parallel of people you so readily decry so vehemently. You are as much a part of the problem so please drop the hypocracy.

Is this classed as trolling or stalking?? ?

Sticking your oar in where it doesn't concern you? I bet you're the ear wigging type aswell aren't you? The forums own Norris Cole ?

Anyway that's the last bone I'll be giving you, Mr know all.

Have a very nice evening.

PS. If you're going to accuse someone of something, please make sure you spell it correctly ?
 
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It's been said a million times, lockdown was only introduced to slow the spread, not stop the spread. It's also been said 60-80% of the population will get it, so slowing the spread is only to assist the NHS in coping with the infections, the dying is going to happen regardless, herd immunity or a vaccine is the only way to stop the dying.


Actually the "dying is going to happen regardless" is incorrect

You are correct that lockdown will delay the spread, meaning that the NHS will hopefully, be able to cope and not be overwhelmed at any point in time
Thus ensuring that all who need ventilators have access to them, a good number of those will recover

If the NHS were to be overwhelmed, then there would not be enough ventilators to go round and people would be dropping like flies

Far fewer will die as a result of the lockdown measures currently in operation and likely to be extended

But yes, vaccine or get it and survive are the only long term outcomes now
 
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