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Coronavirus - how is it/has it affected you?

maxfli65 said:
Well I haven't driven the last week since dealing with virus, driving a short distance, I'm 2.5 miles and never gone further since this all started, is still ok we are officially told. Dogs need to run.
Stick and flick is a policy several landowning agencies say is ok, always have poop bags and would collect anywhere near people walking.
Must be nice being perfect.
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Not picking up is a fine here unfortunately driving around the country side isn't-yet.
 
Italian outcast said:
Stupid for sure, apologise and move on I hope
You can't just find someone else with her current experience - its about to get critical in Scotland
The bold is just ridiculous
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Ridiculous? We'll agree to disagree on that.

This person has been used to front television ad campaigns up here telling people to stay at home. She is potentially damaging all the good work the Scottish government is doing and potentially causing a public health crisis. The idiots will now use this as an excuse to go and party in the park, or drive to their second homes or just be idiots.

I am under no illusions of what is coming our way. I work for the NHS and am involved in the new 'hospital' at the SEC and it is truly scary (still not convinced it will be big enough).

We need people at the helm that lead by example. Not potentially put people in harm's way with foolish, selfish actions.
 
HowlingGale said:
Ridiculous? We'll agree to disagree on that.

This person has been used to front television ad campaigns up here telling people to stay at home. She is potentially damaging all the good work the Scottish government is doing and potentially causing a public health crisis. The idiots will now use this as an excuse to go and party in the park, or drive to their second homes or just be idiots.

I am under no illusions of what is coming our way. I work for the NHS and am involved in the new 'hospital' at the SEC and it is truly scary (still not convinced it will be big enough).

We need people at the helm that lead by example. Not potentially put people in harm's way with foolish, selfish actions.
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I agree about the stupidity and lack of example -i just don't think she has to go and don't think it is helpful to Scottish healthcare that she goes at this critical moment - though she probably will
Its not a striking off offence - you should know that if you work for the NHS
 
Italian outcast said:
I agree about the stupidity and lack of example -i just don't think she has to go and don't think it is helpful to Scottish healthcare that she goes at this critical moment - though she probably will
Its not a striking off offence - you should know that if you work for the NHS
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Don't know about that. As a medical professional there are certain 'values' that they need to uphold in their daily lives, not just when practicing medicine.
I'm not sure if what she has done will go against the Hippocratic oath but when those doctors attempted to bomb Glasgow airport there were not an insignificant number of doctors more outraged that they went against the Hippocratic oath that the actual act of trying to blow people up, if that makes sense. ( I am in no way trying to compare what she has done with those terrorists. I am using it as an example of how highly regarded the Hippocratic oath is and how their primary goal is the care of others)
 
HowlingGale said:
Don't know about that. As a medical professional there are certain 'values' that they need to uphold in their daily lives, not just when practicing medicine.
I'm not sure if what she has done will go against the Hippocratic oath but when those doctors attempted to bomb Glasgow airport there were not an insignificant number of doctors more outraged that they went against the Hippocratic oath that the actual act of trying to blow people up, if that makes sense. ( I am in no way trying to compare what she has done with those terrorists. I am using it as an example of how highly regarded the Hippocratic oath is and how their primary goal is the care of others)
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I get what you're saying but all said and done she just made a personal error of judgement - folk do that (and often pay a personal price)

While she may have damaged the message (and so may indirectly have put folk at risk and worse) - lots of similar things have also happened across the board from folk in positions of influence - you can't string them all up

PS - at least she hasn't played the 'driving to take the dogs for a walk card' - yet :)
 
Italian outcast said:
I get what you're saying but all said and done she just made a personal error of judgement - folk do that (and often pay a personal price)

While she may have damaged the message (and so may indirectly have put folk at risk and worse) - lots of similar things have also happened across the board from folk in positions of influence - you can't string them all up

PS - at least she hasn't played the 'driving to take the dogs for a walk card' - yet :)
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? No she hasn't. Maybe I am being harsh but it's horrible being cooped up and living by the rules, while the rule makers are flouting them. The next few weeks could be grim.
 
Old Skier said:
Not picking up is a fine here unfortunately driving around the country side isn't-yet.
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It would be a fine in parks or a beach or where designated as illegal here too, rightly so. You have very different access laws to us like trespass and much more people so I imagine dogs have to be on leads more. I think common sense is applicable, in a large conifer forest for example where there is no livestock and few visitors a dog can be off the lead safely and will do it's business somewhere often well off any tracks. The plastic sacks into landfill is a genuine consideration environmentally too and a cost in provision of bins and collection.
 
SwingsitlikeHogan said:
Get the feeling that talk of a peak in a week or two is being interpreted by some, possibly many, as meaning the worst will be over and so they can start to get back to normal, so dangerous thinking because nope...sadly very not so I fear.
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The peak in a couple of weeks might only be the first of a number of peaks with only a modest drop off in between. The only 2 ways this thing will really end is if it is shown that exposure to either the infection or a vaccine covers durable immunity, and then if we get a large proportion of the population immune, ro some mix of those. Doing so by immunisation is relatively risk-free, but doing so by allowing infection will costs tens or hundreds of thousands of lives. Hence the Govt abandonment of their original herd immunity by controlled infection strategy.

If durable immunity does not reaault from exposure we are in big trouble.

It is also worth noting that this strategy of shielding is a risky one. Even if we achieve herd immunity numbers, that doesn't stop spread to indivudla cases, just the propagation (multiplication) in the community. The currently shielded will be at risk one way or another until they are able to be immunised.
 
maxfli65 said:
Agreed, very poor example to set if true. Should stand aside.

For consistency should HRH PoW not be castigated In the same way for taking a large entourage up from London to Deeside or does he not count because of his status?
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Seriously poor judgement twice from the CMO, but the attention given to it by the unionist press whilst 'forgiving' the POW and the Tory Scottish Minister for much more serious breach of rules/protocol is not surprising.:(
 
Crazyface said:
Like this post. Just what I'm thinking. If we don't know how it started, how it is spread, how it effects different people, can it re-infect people who have already had it....and on and on and on. Four / Five months on from first found. China has no vaccine nor has anyone else. We have no idea what to do. We are only on lock down to prevent the NHS being over run. What happens when they let everyone out? the virus takes hold again? We don't know. No one bluddy knows!!!! There is no point spouting about how many deaths or anything else about it. We need to know where we are in solving the bluddy problem. Everything else is just pointless noise. People are ignoring instructions and I can see why. Tell us how we are going to defeat this. That's what we want to hear!!!! None of the moronic journos who get the chance to put questions to the government have even bothered to ask where we are in solving this. And why the hell are we being cooped up...apart from saving the NHS a load of mither. It's all a sack of poo and if the weather is good next Friday, there will be a huge rebellion, coz that's what we Brits do best, remember Brexit???? We need to be told if this can be stopped. If not, we'll take our chances.
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Sorry Crazyface but this is just irresponsible rubbish...aye do what we want and see the god almighty disaster we’ll initiate. Yes - a bit like Brexit if you must...
 
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